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  • As we know, the next inFAMOUS game is overdue (if there even will be one, we don't know for sure). So, can we expect the next inFAMOUS game (inFAMOUS 3, inFAMOUS 4, inFAMOUS: Revenant, whatever the hell the game will be called) to release in 2018? New possibilities can arise. So, what do we think?

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    • Nothin'?

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    • It would be nice to have another infamous game sequel

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    • all i can say is that cole will not be there. Delsin will probably be a villain/hero, depending on how you play the previous game, so essentiallly, your first choice defines if delsin is good or bad, somehow.

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    • You have no idea if Cole will be back. Unless you work for Sucker Punch (which you don't), you cannot say that with certainty. Stories change, plans change. Pretty sure after the horrible reception to Delsin, SP would look to bring cole back. 

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      You have no idea if Cole will be back. Unless you work for Sucker Punch (which you don't), you cannot say that with certainty. Stories change, plans change. Pretty sure after the horrible reception to Delsin, SP would look to bring cole back. 

      I think he means Cole won't come back in a SS sequel and whle you make a good point Jim, it's pretty likely that Cole won't come back after dying in inFAMOUS 2.


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    • Cole's story is done, but they could always bring him back if there was enough demand. I know demand for inFAMOUS isn't as high as other games, but nonetheless, people would buy the next game (ESPECIALLY if Cole was in it.) These days, games are taking the route of having new protagonists every sequel game. Is this a good thing? For some games yes, others not so much. But the obvious answer is: we will have to wait and see.

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    • But we could always discuss, as we're doing now, as the purpose of this thread is to discuss.

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    • I hope they dont leave the sponge power concept!!

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    • Like power absorption?

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      Pretty sure after the horrible reception to Delsin, SP would look to bring cole back. 

      I hope they do.

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    • Having Cole come back would be awesome. He has a very high fan base. They can work the story in a way that he absorbs enough power from the beasts or the cube and enabled him to regenerate but it took a very long time to do. They already established that Cole can absorb powers. This would be perfect because they could write a story that Delsin went fruit loop crazy and Cole regenerates with new powers only to realize that conduits still exists.  And a major conduit stronger than the beast has a GOD complex who else better equipped to take him on then our man Cole McGrath.  Plus Zeke told Delsin about Coles Legacy in an expansion, Zeke could fill Cole in on what Delsin has been doing while away. Thoughts? or a female main character would be nice. I think it needs to be Cole or a new character and stay with that character. You get invested in a character that is what brings you back to franchise game most of the time. 

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    • 165.254.121.18 wrote:

      Having Cole come back would be awesome. He has a very high fan base. They can work the story in a way that he absorbs enough power from the beasts or the cube and enabled him to regenerate but it took a very long time to do. They already established that Cole can absorb powers. This would be perfect because they could write a story that Delsin went fruit loop crazy and Cole regenerates with new powers only to realize that conduits still exists.  And a major conduit stronger than the beast has a GOD complex who else better equipped to take him on then our man Cole McGrath.  Plus Zeke told Delsin about Coles Legacy in an expansion, Zeke could fill Cole in on what Delsin has been doing while away. Thoughts? or a female main character would be nice. I think it needs to be Cole or a new character and stay with that character. You get invested in a character that is what brings you back to franchise game most of the time. 

      ​OK here I go:

      ​1. What on earth is the cube!

      ​2. Since when can Cole absorb powers!

      ​3. ENOUGH WITH "I WANT COLE BACK". Cole was awesome, I get it, he was. I love inFAMOUS 2 and inFAMOUS remains to be either one of or my only favourite game of all time. So why don't I want Cole back? Simple. Coles death ment something. Coles death showed us that he really was the white night, the good guy. He was willing to sacrifice his life to save people. That means something!!!! If he comes back, it's pretty much saying he did nothing. It doesn't matter that he killed himself because he's just back. He took no risk or anything.

      ​4. Honestly the "how Cole can come back" theories just keep getting more and more stupid.

      ​5.(This is more a slight pick than a major annnoyance) Can people stop saying Delsin is more powerful than the BEAST. The Beast is pretty much supposed to be the most powerful a conduit can get. He has the God complex; Cole had to pretty much commit genicide to kill him and that wasn't through his powers. I mean the guy took a nuke to the face and shrugged it off.

      ​Sorry if I come off as aggresive or unpleasent, I'm just pointing things out.


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    • Ex-fucking-actly!! Cole should stay dead for his heroic role to really be meaningful! I'm glad someone agrees

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    • The DUP and Delsin made Cole's death mean nothing. The DUP hopped on the "Conduits are evil" train, RENAMED them as Bioterrorists and tainted their image in the public's eye. Cole's death was wrecked the second Augustine got put in power. Delsin didn't help it, since, to the general public. He's a terrorist who blew up a GOVERNMENT FUNDED AGENCY. 

      Cole coming back would be great, and could lead to some interesting stories. Besides, Cole was a far more interesting protagonist than Delsin ever could be. Now before certain people jump down my throat claiming Baker hate, I do NOT blame Baker. I do NOT blame Nate Fox. Sony cut an entire year of Sucker Punch's development time leading to massive script re-writes WHILE motion capture was happening. The only reason Cole wasn't back for the game was because Eric Ladin was filming a movie at the time SS was in development. 


      Okay TL;DR Should Cole come back? I say yes, there's a lot of potential of great stories to be told. Will he be back? Considering Eric's still got a contract with Sucker Punch, I say yes. Will he be back soon? I dunno, I don't work for SP. And before anyone says "Cole's dead, he's not coming back."  Marvel said the same about Gwen Stacy and Bucky Rodgers (aka Winter Soldier), look what happened there.

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    • I wouldn't mind seeing Cole return for the next game, but some of these people's theories I'm seeing are starting to get a little ridiculous. I have no idea what explanation they'd have for him coming back to life, but we saw that John was disintegrated, only to have his sub-conscience pull him back together by the next game, so I'm sure they'll think of something.

      I hope too with however they bring him back or have him appear next that they do a good job with. He's a character who deserves to continue to have a good story, not one like SS

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      The DUP and Delsin made Cole's death mean nothing. The DUP hopped on the "Conduits are evil" train, RENAMED them as Bioterrorists and tainted their image in the public's eye. Cole's death was wrecked the second Augustine got put in power. Delsin didn't help it, since, to the general public. He's a terrorist who blew up a GOVERNMENT FUNDED AGENCY. 

      Cole coming back would be great, and could lead to some interesting stories. Besides, Cole was a far more interesting protagonist than Delsin ever could be. Now before certain people jump down my throat claiming Baker hate, I do NOT blame Baker. I do NOT blame Nate Fox. Sony cut an entire year of Sucker Punch's development time leading to massive script re-writes WHILE motion capture was happening. The only reason Cole wasn't back for the game was because Eric Ladin was filming a movie at the time SS was in development. 


      Okay TL;DR Should Cole come back? I say yes, there's a lot of potential of great stories to be told. Will he be back? Considering Eric's still got a contract with Sucker Punch, I say yes. Will he be back soon? I dunno, I don't work for SP. And before anyone says "Cole's dead, he's not coming back."  Marvel said the same about Gwen Stacy and Bucky Rodgers (aka Winter Soldier), look what happened there.

      The Wayne Family (unless you count their zombie forms), The Flying Graysons (unless you count their zombie forms), Uncle Ben, Peter Parker's Mom and Dad (unless you count their robot imposters), Frank Castle's wife and kids, and some others stayed dead.

      Not all comic book characters come back to life.

      I do not hate the character Cole, and I am not accusing you of hating voice actor Troy Baker, but what I am asking is: What specific stories could they make with Cole at this point?

      And as for that "Bioterrorist's body" thing, what if that wasn't even Cole? What if that was the body of some other Conduit?

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      I wouldn't mind seeing Cole return for the next game, but some of these people's theories I'm seeing are starting to get a little ridiculous. I have no idea what explanation they'd have for him coming back to life, but we saw that John was disintegrated, only to have his sub-conscience pull him back together by the next game, so I'm sure they'll think of something.

      I hope too with however they bring him back or have him appear next that they do a good job with. He's a character who deserves to continue to have a good story, not one like SS

      Hmm....if they did bring back Cole, maybe it could be something along the lines of "Elemental Conduits can be brought back with their element that they manipulated", or something like that?

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      "The Cube"?

      Umm, if you were talking about the Ray Sphere....then that was obviously not a cube.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      The DUP and Delsin made Cole's death mean nothing. The DUP hopped on the "Conduits are evil" train, RENAMED them as Bioterrorists and tainted their image in the public's eye. Cole's death was wrecked the second Augustine got put in power. Delsin didn't help it, since, to the general public. He's a terrorist who blew up a GOVERNMENT FUNDED AGENCY. 

      Cole coming back would be great, and could lead to some interesting stories. Besides, Cole was a far more interesting protagonist than Delsin ever could be. Now before certain people jump down my throat claiming Baker hate, I do NOT blame Baker. I do NOT blame Nate Fox. Sony cut an entire year of Sucker Punch's development time leading to massive script re-writes WHILE motion capture was happening. The only reason Cole wasn't back for the game was because Eric Ladin was filming a movie at the time SS was in development. 


      Okay TL;DR Should Cole come back? I say yes, there's a lot of potential of great stories to be told. Will he be back? Considering Eric's still got a contract with Sucker Punch, I say yes. Will he be back soon? I dunno, I don't work for SP. And before anyone says "Cole's dead, he's not coming back."  Marvel said the same about Gwen Stacy and Bucky Rodgers (aka Winter Soldier), look what happened there.

      Ok when I said Coles death ment something I did not mean on the people in the game. While people in New Marais loved Cole other people would of been terrified by the Beast and probably all conduits. I'm talking about the effect it had on us as a plot point, and it was a good one. We were shown how Cole had come from the "I don't care", rule breaking, bike courier with little good qualitys, and turned into a true hero. I good, meaningful character change. The DUP doesn't effect my feelings on Cole in the good ending, I still find him to be a hero. Ok I need to stop talking about SS and inFAMOUS 2 because SS has plot holes that contrict inFAMOUS 2 and I'm getting irritated.

      Oh and just quickly (ok not that quick), Cole had a good story. Heck, he had a fantastic one, Cole's story is why most people are on this wiki. What people are missing is that all storys have endings, most are bad but some are good, like the ending to Coles story. When things don't end they drag on forever and we eventually get tired. The inFAMOUS universe is forever growing with new games, DLCs and comics, and with the theorys and explanations we come up with on this very wiki. I hope it never dies, you want to know how to stop it from dying. Give Cole the end he deserves. Have time for a new inFAMOUS. The only way I want Cole to return is if SP did a one off, spin off where you got to play as evil BEAST Cole, that would be awesome. But his main story, his cannon or whatever you want to kill it, has to finish. If we want the inFAMOUS universe to develop, we have to expand it, have new characters, not just hang on to old ones. Sure, SS was not what we wanted, some didn't like Delsin, some didn't like the more "Xbox-ish" gameplay, some didn't like the story, some didn't like the powers. Some of us just hated the game, period. And I know, that it's likely that if SP doesn't go back to Cole, they will go back to Delsin. But think, damn it, think. Cole is dead. His story is finished, we loved him, but it's time to change. No, I don't want a sequel to SS, however we can still have the universe expanded. We can have new characters, new powers, new storys, and I bet my ass we will. It's to for inFAMOUS to start a new chapter, a new dawn. A new age.


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    • S.young9 wrote:
      @165.254.121.18"The Cube"?

      Umm, if you were talking about the Ray Sphere....then that was obviously not a cube.

      Y'know, there's a Quote button you can use, as I've done here.

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    • If they don't have Cole actually come back, I hope they at least reference him and his actions More in the next game or at least have some flashbacks with him. It was disappointing that he went practically unmentioned in Second Son outside of Cole's legacy DLC which was just a DLC. I understand their approach of making a whole different game, but it didn't seem entirely popular.

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    • By limiting yourself to Cole, you are making no room for even better characters! Trust me, it wouldn't be good if Cole was the next protagonist. Because we would just have 3 playable characters if the next game is the last, Delsin, Cole and Fetch. It's like you guys don't want more powers or characters. It's about expanding the universe like The Black Raven yes the name is from the legend said.

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    • I honestly wouldn't mind seeing more of Delsin, I just think they have to slightly redo or change his character a little bit, kinda like what they did with Cole in inFamous 2

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    • Nah, Delsin's done. The next inFAMOUS game is Cole or a new protagonist.

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    • I really feel bad for Troy Baker, he did his damndest to make Delsin work, but the script just wasn't there.

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    • Delsin himself was a good character, with a great personality, but for some reason the spark was missing, leaving him mediocre. You just couldn't take him as a serious inFAMOUS protagonist. Script issues is most likely the reason, as Jim said.

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    • As well, it's uncommon for a protagonist to appear in two games, and Cole did. When Delsin came about, everyone was so used to Cole and couldn't relate to Delsin, if you know what I'm saying. Maybe I'm just making things up at this point, but I guess those could be reasons.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      S.young9 wrote:
      @165.254.121.18"The Cube"?

      Umm, if you were talking about the Ray Sphere....then that was obviously not a cube.

      Y'know, there's a Quote button you can use, as I've done here.

      True enough. Thank you for the reminder.

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    • Well I think they have to do something with Delsin in the next game, even if he isn't the main character/protagonist. They can't just abandon him without an explaination or a half arse one at that.

      I would be fine with a new main character, but I don't really want a whole new refresh of the series like Second Son was. I felt like that game practically ignored the first two, and that was a let down for me and I would think a lot of other fans. I still have questions, like did the ray sphere just disappear, and what exactly had Zeke been up to? Those should have been answered

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    • Oh no, what Zeke's been up to WAS answered. 

      In a DLC.

      Only avaliable if you pre-ordered or got the Legacy Edition.

      Zeke was fighting the DUP with Wolfe's brother. And you got to talk to him for about 45 seconds. 

      In a god damn phone call.

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    • Kinda off topic, but will the mission pages for Second Son ever be finished?

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      Well I think they have to do something with Delsin in the next game, even if he isn't the main character/protagonist. They can't just abandon him without an explaination or a half arse one at that.

      I would be fine with a new main character, but I don't really want a whole new refresh of the series like Second Son was. I felt like that game practically ignored the first two, and that was a let down for me and I would think a lot of other fans. I still have questions, like did the ray sphere just disappear, and what exactly had Zeke been up to? Those should have been answered

      They could have Delsin and Zeke team up to take on remaining DUP forces around the world, and then have Delsin absorb power from Cole's body and then Delsin gains Electricity as another part of his arsenal of copied superpowers.

      As for Cole himself....not sure.

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    • Just giving him Cole's powers isn't going to make him likeable, if anything that will just make people hate him more.

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    • Yeah if you're going to give Delsin electric powers, you might as well just bring back Cole. Plus if they don't bring him back, I wouldn't imagine Delsin would be able to absorb power from a body that's been dead for seven years. I wouldn't mind seeing a team of Delsin and Zeke though, I didn't have a problem with Delsin, unlike most people

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    • He was just poorly written and underdeveloped. For a 24 year old, he sure acted like an idiotic teenager.

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    • I forgot to mention that, in my idea, Delsin would not just solely get Cole's memories midway through. He'd also go through much better character development then he did during Second Son, with Zeke being a new father figure and a new female character acting as a mother figure. Zeke being the funloving, sort of happy-go-lucky dad, whereas the new female character would be a serious, sort of strict mother.

      And as for Delsin absorbing powers from Cole's body, considering some of the technology in Second Son, I wouldn't be surprised if somebody in the Infamous Universe found a way to preserve Cole's body to keep it fresh, thus preserving his Conduit Gene, or something like that.

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    • That doesn't change the fact that, giving Delsin Cole's powers would be pointless, just revive Cole. Delsin just didn't work, he isn't an interesting character, all apologies to Troy Baker but, he didn't work.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      That doesn't change the fact that, giving Delsin Cole's powers would be pointless, just revive Cole. Delsin just didn't work, he isn't an interesting character, all apologies to Troy Baker but, he didn't work.

      If they develop Delsin more as in give him better characer development, and give Troy Baker better script material to work with, it might work better.

      Either that, or just make an entirely new protagonist with similar electricity powers.

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    • To sum up my idea, Delsin will go through a better story arc that leads to him being an even better person midway through said arc then he ended up as in the Good Karma ending, which at that point, practically earns him the mantle of Cole's Legacy.

      I do not hate Cole, I just think that Cole should be at peace. Cole's been through enough.

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    • Besides, it would be a good aversion/subversion of the whole "Superheroes getting ressurected", in which Cole would be one of the few superheroes to stay dead.

      I am sorry, fellow Cole fans. Once again, I am not hating on Cole. I just like to avert/subvert cliches and for some (keyword being some) poorly developed protagonists (like Delsin) to improve.

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    • "Or just make a new protagonist with similar electric powers." That. Would be. POINTLESS. Just bring back Cole at that point.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      "Or just make a new protagonist with similar electric powers." That. Would be. POINTLESS. Just bring back Cole at that point.

      Pointless, you say? Not necessarily. They do not need to make this hypothetical new character a complete rip-off of Cole. They could give this new protagonist a mostly different backstory, a mostly different personality, and actually make an effort to make said new main character likeable.

      The theme for this idea would focus more and expand on themes related to Legacy. More specifically, Cole's Legacy.

      Infamous 1 focused on what would happen if a post-disaster situation were to involve superhumans (kinda like Batman: No Man's Land). Infamous 2 focused on the "Fantastic Racism" trope, in that case, racism against superhumans. And in Infamous Second Son, while it was ultimately poorly executed, had some Fantastic Racism themes, but tried to focused more on the negative consequences of government surveillance, with, once again, superhumans added to the mix.

      So, the next logical step could be Legacy.

      Another detail with this new protagonist is that he or she uses vastly different Electricity-based techniques with his or her Electric powers and therefore has a different fighting style from Cole as well.

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    • If you're gonna make a new protagonist with electric powers, might as well bring Cole back. Even so, I doubt SP would make a game where the protagonist has electric powers, as that's already been done in the first two games. Maybe give the new protagonist fire or something, but this fire would be more advanced than the pyrokinesis introduced in inFAMOUS 2. Just throwin' ideas out there.

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    • I understand your whole theme of legacy, it isn't a bad one, but they just shouldn't give a protagonist electric powers. We would then be playing as electric powered conduits in 3/4 of the games and I'd only want that if we could play as Cole again.

      But yes, I would like to see perhaps some focus around Cole's legacy, hear more people talk about what he's done and the influences he's had on the world. His actions were obviously some pretty major big ones

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    • Yeah, his actions were major but weren't even referenced in Second Son. Yet another example of script cuts as Jim mentioned.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Yeah, his actions were major but weren't even referenced in Second Son. Yet another example of script cuts as Jim mentioned.

      True enough. That's why I suggested that the next Infamous game could focus on legacy, because I was kind of disappointed that Cole's actions were not even referenced in the main story of Infamous Second Son. :(

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      If you're gonna make a new protagonist with electric powers, might as well bring Cole back. Even so, I doubt SP would make a game where the protagonist has electric powers, as that's already been done in the first two games. Maybe give the new protagonist fire or something, but this fire would be more advanced than the pyrokinesis introduced in inFAMOUS 2. Just throwin' ideas out there.

      Fair enough. If the new protagonist gets advanced fire powers, how about if there's another new main character that gets advanced ice powers?

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      I understand your whole theme of legacy, it isn't a bad one, but they just shouldn't give a protagonist electric powers. We would then be playing as electric powered conduits in 3/4 of the games and I'd only want that if we could play as Cole again.

      But yes, I would like to see perhaps some focus around Cole's legacy, hear more people talk about what he's done and the influences he's had on the world. His actions were obviously some pretty major big ones

      At least we agree about the idea that Cole's legacy gets some well-deserved focus.

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    • If they do make one, please be with Cole, no one can stand Delsin.

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    • I remember the original thread was about whether or not we think the next inFAMOUS game will release or be announced in 2017, and why, but this is good, too.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      I remember the original thread was about whether or not we think the next inFAMOUS game will release or be announced in 2017, and why, but this is good, too.



      Okay.

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    • I don't know why they killed Cole off after only two games but I don't think they should bring him back.

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    • 174.94.116.245 wrote:

      Chris6d wrote:
      I remember the original thread was about whether or not we think the next inFAMOUS game will release or be announced in 2017, and why, but this is good, too.


      Okay.

      What? It's the truth.

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    • Chris6d wrote: I remember the original thread was about whether or not we think the next inFAMOUS game will release or be announced in 2017, and why, but this is good, too.

      Okay then, going back to what you originally asked, do I think the next inFamous game will come out this year? Obviously I don't know and have no way of really knowing, but if they do I'd think it wouldn't be until late this year if it is this year, maybe around the holidays. I think they'll announce it this year, perhaps in a couple months. Still, we can only predict

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    • Well let's think back. Were any inFAMOUS games revealed at E3?

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    • Of my knowledge I think only inFamous 2 was, not any of the other major ones. So we have no way to really accurately predict when a reveal will be. Possibly even if too

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    • Un dia le escribi a la empresa de video juegos (Sucker punch) que crearan un nuevo juego de inFAMOUS, llamado inFAMOUS EVOLUTION EN DONDE HAY NUEVOS CONDUCTORES Y El D.U.P invaden una nueva ciudad espero que el juego se llame inFAMOUS EVOLUTION 

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    • y que los nuevos conductores son los nuevos personajes y que seria para play 3 y 4 lo demas no puedo contar porque es una sorpreza

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    • I like all the games a lot but I have to say I relate to delsin's personality and I hope he would be in the next game.

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    • I hate to burst your bubble, but odds are he won't be.

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    • You know, if we do get another game in the inFAMOUS series and it's not a sequel to Second Son. I would die happy.

      Now I believe what we actually need are games to bridge the gap between inFAMOUS 2 and inFAMOUS: SECOND SON. Now you're probrably wondering why would Sucker Punch want to do that? Well it could give us an idea of what types of Conduits were still running around and how many Augustine had captured, we could get answers on how Conduits are still alive when they should be dead, and we could get references to the previous two games.

      But, if Sucker Punch does continue doing some routes from Marvel, then they need to expand their stories. Like have a conduit with plant powers be like Spider-Man, a conduit with shockwaves be like Thor, a conduit with radiation be like the Hulk or even Godzilla, a metal one be Wolverine, four conduits like the Fantastic Four, most of them like The Avengers, some actual teenage and child ones be like the Runaways for crying out loud. C'mon SP expand your stories, do something new with your rpotags, be creative.

      And Jim, i would LOVE Cole to come back as I absolutely HATED DElSIN. I mean, COME ON SUCKER PUNCH AND SONY, did you guys honestly think we were ready for a new inFAMOUS that early and one with a damn power sponge to boot, c'mon guys what were you thinking. 

      Delsin, to me, just didn't fit, his story didn't fit, his powers didn't fit, hell, even his  moral choices didn't fit so good with me. He felt pointless, he felt generic, he dumbed down, he felt like overall crap. But i blame Sony for all of that. I will be glad with a new protagonist anyday of the week. I just want Delsin, his tribe, his enemies, everything about him dead and forgotten.

      And if Cole does come back, here's how i think he will.

      It starts ten months after Second Son and most Conduits are living normal lives after going back to their homes, friends, and families. A group of mysterious people are at Cole's grave and dig up his body. They hope to ressurect his body to use it against Delsin to destroy him. A lightning storm occurs and the bolts strike Cole's body destroying the decayed flash around his skeleton and it makes his entire body appear in tip-top condition. However, this has a side effect of bringing his evil half a body of his own who wakes up immediately and sees his good half.

      Evil! Cole, or Loce as i would call him, decides not to kill Cole and kills the people who dug him up and decides to test out how powerful he's gotten and is impressed by the results. Afterwards, he hears rumors about Delsin and his heroics and that he was out in Germany doing some work with Soldiers who were giving some of their Conduits a hard time. Loce decides to wait and give Delsin a little 'Welcome Home' present.

      While Delsin comes back home to Seattle, he sees it shambles and also sees Fetch, Eugene and Celia lying dead onto the streets. He becomes horrified and checks their bodies, Celia has enough life left in her to tell him that someone named 'Loce' was responsible for the destruction and tells him how sorry she was for being so blind and foolish. Delsin now angered, hears an explosion occur and sees it coming from the woods.

      He immediately realizes it his tribe was in danger and runs off to where he sees the smoke and sees Loce standing there with his arms crossed smirking at his work. Delsin now seething with rage attacks recklessly, something Loce uses to his advantage and manages to kill Delsin with his bio-leech power. Loce believes he has won, but his battle was not over yet as Cole has awakened and ses what Loce had done to the city he was buried in before setting to kill his evil counterpart.

      Look. for anyone against this idea, I am sorry but like I said, Delsin just didn't fit and if a new game does happen, I just wish it to be a mid-quel bridging the gap between the previous two games and Second Son.

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    • I mean, sounds cool, but it seems a little farfetched to happen in the game. inFamous has always had some degree of realism and that's just stretching it. I also don't think I'm a huge fan of killing off all the characters from Second Son right away in the beginning of the game. Second Son was a game in the series and I don't really want a next game make it so that everything that happened in that one pointless. If Cole comes back he's going to be his canon inpersonation and they're gonna have to come up with a good explanation about why he's back

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      I mean, sounds cool, but it seems a little farfetched to happen in the game. inFamous has always had some degree of realism and that's just stretching it. I also don't think I'm a huge fan of killing off all the characters from Second Son right away in the beginning of the game. Second Son was a game in the series and I don't really want a next game make it so that everything that happened in that one pointless. If Cole comes back he's going to be his canon inpersonation and they're gonna have to come up with a good explanation about why he's back

      Dude, I understand that killing Delsin and his friends early in the game would not be a good move but it wouldn't feel pointless it would be a good fix for the series since Delsin just didn't fit in the series at all. And to add to that Second Son itself WAS POINTLESS. And if Cole is brought back i said so during my explanation, but hey, if SP does a Frankenstein thing that would be good too. The point is, I just want Delsin to die and never come back.

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    • Delsin doesn't have to die for us to have an inFAMOUS sequel with a new protagonist.

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    • I can understand a lot of people don't like Delsin and want him to go away or die, and that's fine, but I don't hate him. I feel like I relate with him to a degree, I just don't think they did a good job telling his story in Second Son. Whether it was because of last second cutbacks or just a poorly done game, it wasn't executed well. A game where both Delsin and Cole are playable and protagonists would be cool. A GTA V type thing where we can switch who we're playing as at any time would be interesting.

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    • If Sucker Punch doesn't bring Cole back, then either Brooke Augustine or Celia Penderghast should be the main character of the next inFAMOUS game.

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    • Ok Jim, I need to correct you on something. The D.U.P and Agustine didn't wreck Cole's death, it was the military being responsible due to their mindset of killing Conduits. Augustine specifically said "We are at war WITH these Bioterrorists" shesaid 'with' not 'against' meaning she wanted conduits safe and trained them to hone their powers and use them as soldiers against the militay. 

      The military are the ones responsible for the hell that Conduits went through, so if a sequel to Second Son is made, it has to be one about Conduits who want to take the military out of the picture,

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    • I don't remember Augustine saying she's gathering conduits and training them to fight the military. She was gathering conduits in Curdan Cay to keep them away from the groups of people who hated and lynched them. She did train Eugene and Fetch, but that was just for the purpose of releasing them so they would create fear in the city so the DUP would get more funding

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      I don't remember Augustine saying she's gathering conduits and training them to fight the military. She was gathering conduits in Curdan Cay to keep them away from the groups of people who hated and lynched them. She did train Eugene and Fetch, but that was just for the purpose of releasing them so they would create fear in the city so the DUP would get more funding

      That's only true if you look at it on the surface and from Second Son'd perspective. If you played First Light, she says that others were like Fetch and had to fight to survive in the harsh environment they were out in. The only reason why this wasn't even seen or made possible is because of how Second Son was written and how short First Light was made.

      I'm saying if another Infamous game is made, the main enemy needs to be the military and not just with regular soldiers and ACP's, they need to bring in Tanks, Jeeps, Bazookas, Grenade Launchers, Choppers, and Jets. Battleships and Submarines would be serious overkill.

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    • I see what you're saying, but I believe Augustine told Fetch that they needed to fight to survive as a rouse to convince Fetch to continue her training and stay angry. Delsin released conduits at the end of Second Son and I don't necessarily see the military going back to rounding them up, they kinda failed the first time they tried. So maybe there could be some form of going against the military in the next game, but I can't see that being too prominent or them being the main enemy.

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    • New game, new characters. Recycling old characters is weak IMO. Unless it's Cole, because he was the opposite of a weak character.

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    • Ddude777 wrote: Yeah if you're going to give Delsin electric powers, you might as well just bring back Cole. Plus if they don't bring him back, I wouldn't imagine Delsin would be able to absorb power from a body that's been dead for seven years. I wouldn't mind seeing a team of Delsin and Zeke though, I didn't have a problem with Delsin, unlike most people

      inFAMOUS: Second Son takes place seven years after inFAMOUS 2, so the next inFAMOUS game would most likely take place a few years after inFAMOUS: Second Son, meaning it would be way more than seven years. Unless it's a prequel, which I think is a terrible idea.

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    • Ok, even if Sucker Punch does a sequel to Second Son, it needs a new protagonist and a few new gameplay mechanics to look like a new coat of paint. Like say a blocking mechanic for the power shield, a sprint button for the power dashing, and maybe change up the firing shots of powers. Like make the R1 a pistol, the R2 a shotgun, the square a bomb, and the triangle a missile. Karma bomb can be changes into Karma explosions to give a more powerful feeling, make the destruction a bit more real whenever a conduit uses their powers in the streets, have innocents caught in the crossfire and either heal them up or put them down.

      Hell, give back the reduced damage option of inFAMOUS 1 and give a strength upgrading mechanic along with speed and senses. Increase our output of power, better enemies to use different tactics against. Still needs to be a Conduit as a living battery, because one as a living generator won't sell so well with auduiances and think that inFAMOUS is ripping off [PROTOTYPE]. Not that it already didn't by making Delsin a power sponge Conduit instead of just giving him one power and focusing more on the story and less the graphics and gameplay.

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    • I think we can all agree that inFAMOUS: Second Son was all about the fancy graphics, new features, gameplay (especially because it was the first inFAMOUS game for PS4) and pushed aside the story and development, which is why it got so much hate. Graphics are important, but they aren't everything. Look back on past games where the graphics sucked but the story and gameplay was riveting, making the game kick ass.

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      I understand your whole theme of legacy, it isn't a bad one, but they just shouldn't give a protagonist electric powers. We would then be playing as electric powered conduits in 3/4 of the games and I'd only want that if we could play as Cole again.

      But yes, I would like to see perhaps some focus around Cole's legacy, hear more people talk about what he's done and the influences he's had on the world. His actions were obviously some pretty major big ones

      And that's why I suggested that a new Electric Conduit should have a different fighting style to differentiate him/her form Cole, so that he/she won't become a Cole clone (so to speak...)

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    • Well sure, electric powers are fun, but they've already been used in the first two games. There are many different powers they could explore that they've mentioned in Second Son such as wire, paper, and glass just to name a few. Those sound like they could be fun or interesting to try out. Maybe if they include many different kinds of powers in the next game, electric could be one, but I'm still just personally not a fan of the power returning unless it's Cole

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    • Remember that Cole has ice powers, too, so if he were to return, electricity could be replaced by ice completely. We never know.

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    • I'm not sure if I'd want to see Cole again. He was an amazing character with a brilliant story, and not to sound like a broken record but he's gone.

      I'd quite like a scenario where you play as an older conduit, whose had their powers for ages but something happens that forces them to stray from their normal lives. I'd think that since they are a more mature conduit too that their powers would be stronger. That's probably because I've felt that in the series the protagonist has been underpowered and they don't have a versatile enough skill set.

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    • You know, I would love to play as a conduit with the power of the cosmos, the power of shockwaves, or the power of darkness.

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    • Why did my second reply be removed?

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    • The first reply, I don't know who that wAs. But the second

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    • If Sucker Punch wants this series to go out on a high note, then what they should do is have conduits break out of Curdan Cay and fight the military themselves without the assitance of the new D.U.P lead by Celia.

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    • Series? As in the entire inFAMOUS series or just Delsin's story? Because it'd be sad if the next inFAMOUS game was the last, if that's what you're implying.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Series? As in the entire inFAMOUS series or just Delsin's story? Because it'd be sad if the next inFAMOUS game was the last, if that's what you're implying.

      The entire inFAMOUS series.

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    • Hopefully there will be a new game, with new powers. Now I'm a sucker for new content, ill love it no matter what, if even for two days. Though I don't have any ideas for a power in genral, if they doo make paper a power maybe the dash would be more of a state than a dash, when you press the dash button, you don't move, at all, in stead delsin/nextplayercharacter will be surrounded by paper bits and origami, and will appear to be made of multiple pieces of paper, an odd wispery noise will all so come from the character, when you move the noise will increase in volume and will be accompanied by a noise akin to a bunch of papers in the wind, the character will become less distinct when moving and will move not as fast as the neon dash but a bit faster than the smoke dash, the thing is, the dash is more like running around where you can change direction on a dime, also wall climbing.

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    • 108.252.227.65 wrote: Hopefully there will be a new game, with new powers. Now I'm a sucker for new content, ill love it no matter what, if even for two days. Though I don't have any ideas for a power in genral, if they doo make paper a power maybe the dash would be more of a state than a dash, when you press the dash button, you don't move, at all, in stead delsin/nextplayercharacter will be surrounded by paper bits and origami, and will appear to be made of multiple pieces of paper, an odd wispery noise will all so come from the character, when you move the noise will increase in volume and will be accompanied by a noise akin to a bunch of papers in the wind, the character will become less distinct when moving and will move not as fast as the neon dash but a bit faster than the smoke dash, the thing is, the dash is more like running around where you can change direction on a dime, also wall climbing.

      There most likely will be a next game, SP has said it in the past. Just because they said it, though, doesn't mean they won't retract it. But inFAMOUS is their best-selling franchise, I'm sure they wouldn't stop unless difficulties occur.

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    • yeah they have enough money so why would they stop makes no cents

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    • makes no sense*.

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    • I think it would be sweet if Cole came back "due to his powers"  But this time either he was an arch villan or Angel.  I think it would be cool to have the players decide on what he comes back as at the start of the game.  ask the player what route did you take when you played good or bad.  Then use that for game play if you are fighting against Cole or if he is helping you out from the shadows.  Also It would be cool based on how you decided to play hero or villian is how he would interact.

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    • Here's another theory that I have that could bring Cole back:

      Perhaps the government (knowing how they tend to be quite crooked in the Infamous Universe) experiments on his remains.....

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    • I've read most of what you guys have argued and pointed out, I'm a big fan of the inFAMOUS series, but I haven't explored in many of the games, like inFAMOUS/2. I really loved Delsin, though I do agree he acted like a teenager. I want him to show up again, but more developed and more mature, with more abilities and interactions. Second Son was kind of a short game. At this point everything would be forced for Delsin's sequel. But if he could like find more people and help each other, or something of similar sorts. Maybe something like GTA V, where you have multiple protagonists, would be an awesome idea. I don't care who else they add, but I want to see more of Delsin, I thought he was a great character and might possible add more to the franchise. As long as they keep making more inFAMOUS entries, I'm set.

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    • The multiple protagonists thing probably wouldn't work out, unless maybe it was two protagonists, like Shattered 2 will have. Otherwise, people will probably thrash on the game due to it "copying" GTA V's style. You know how people are.

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    • If we get a new Infamous game, I'd like for it to be on Steam. Then I can actually play it. But that's wishful thinking from what I know.

      Anyway, what I'd like to see is a focus on the US government and the many conspiracies we saw, especially in Infamous. It's heavily implied the Government runs the freaking press (needless to say this is a very bad thing). They've lied about almost everything related to the Empire City incident and almost everything related to the events of 2. 

      Perhaps you'll play a Conduit insurgent in the next game? Or maybe it'll be like Prototype 2, where you're a member of the US Military and you manage to gain Conduit powers?

      I wonder what a game located at Washington DC would be like?

      Also, I wouldn't mind seeing a city based on Boston and Winthrop. In fact, I'd very much like that. Any chance the next protagonist can swim? Probably not.

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      • wishful*. Yeah, there's a bigger chance of Halo showing up on a PlayStation console than an InFAMOUS game on PC...
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    • HS664 wrote:

      I wonder what a game located at Washington DC would be like. Also, I wouldn't mind seeing a city based on Boston and Winthrop. In fact, I'd very much like that. Any chance the next protagonist can swim? Probably not.

      An inFAMOUS game in Boston would be cool, especially because I've been there so many times and can picture an action-adventure free roam game taking place there, which has been lacking. The area has great potential, geographically and culturally. Washington, DC would be cool as well, but the security there would be tight. Also, did DC get destroyed by the Beast, or was it missed?

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    • D.C. was barely missed, so it'd be 1984 levels of overprotective.

      I doubt Sucker Punch would do Boston, it's far too close to another city, plus The Last of Us and Fallout 4 did Boston prior, if they did Boston, people would just say Sucker Punch was copying.

      As I've said before, I'd rather them stick with a protagonist that's certain to work, I'd love a full, 100% game with Abigail, or return of Cole, but I'd love if they pulled a Sly 3 and had multiple playable protagonists.

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    • What if inFAMOUS 4 had Delsin and Fetch as playbale

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    • Jim Logan wrote:

      • wishful*. Yeah, there's a bigger chance of Halo showing up on a PlayStation console than an InFAMOUS game on PC...

      Why so?

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    • InFAMOUS 3.

      And it's a first party Sony exclusive. The only way it'd ever be multi platform is if Sony products started selling terribly, considering it's outselling the XBONE, it won't ever happen.

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    • we're not gonna have this discussion again, since people [cough cough] have trouble comprehending simple statements. It'd be the fourth main installment in the series, so it'd be referred to as inFAMOUS 4. Though it most definitely won't be called that.

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    • There has to be an InFAMOUS 3 before an InFAMOUS 4. Apparently some people have trouble comprehending that, such a shame. Don't talk down to anyone, let alone me. And I believe you're forgetting we already have 4 main installments, so by your logic, it'd be InFAMOUS 5. 

      But no, bottom line. We need an InFAMOUS 3, before we can get an InFAMOUS 4. 

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    • It does seem kind of wierd that the fourth main game in the series would be called inFamous 3. I get your point that we never actually had an inFamous 3, I just think it's strange to have one when there's already three in the series.

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    • There have already been FOUR GAMES.

      InFAMOUS 

      InFAMOUS 2

      First Light

      Second Son. 

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    • First Light is add-on or expansion. No one will consider it a separate title in the series. Not saying that jumping straight to Infamous 4 name would be stupid, just that it was 3 proper games. There's also Blood Carnival... or whatever it was called.

      Jim, why does it have to be anywhere in USA at all? Why not in Australia? Huge open spaces, potential of telling a story about "Conduit safe harbor". Or instead go for Canada? Taiwan that can be potentially squeezed on game map completly? Siberia? London, Paris, Berlin?

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    • First Light is it's own title. You don't need to play that garbage Second Son to know what's going on, or play it at all. It got it's own physical release.

      And why would it be set anywhere else? The series built itself around being set in the States, it wouldn't make sense to SUDDENLY jump to another continent. "Huge open spaces" also equals limited parkour, a core selling point of the franchise. Lastly, ANYWHERE IN Europe, and people will just shit all over it for trying to copy Assassin's Creed.

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    • in infamous 2 cole mentions having a brother so maybe they could do something like turns out that coles brother is an electric conduit and we go back to new marais (or another city) and celia is a main antagonist and zeke comes back and trains coles brother to face celia or just give him new powers or bring back cole

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    • There are THREE main games in the series. inFamous, inFamous 2, inFamous Second Son. inFamous First Light is a standalone DLC, the page on this website even says so. Like it or not, Second Son is a full game and one of the major games in the series. If you want to include First Light as one, fine, but you might as well include Festival of Blood too, it's the same thing in that regard

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    • Whatever.

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    • In the end, it doesn't really much what they call it, I think we can all or most of us can agree we don't want another game like Second Son in the series. I do agree it should stay in the United States, I think it would be interesting to see it take place somewhere in the midwest perhaps

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    • Ddude777 wrote:
      In the end, it doesn't really much what they call it, I think we can all or most of us can agree we don't want another game like Second Son in the series. I do agree it should stay in the United States, I think it would be interesting to see it take place somewhere in the midwest perhaps


      Agreed. I also think most or all of us that we want a story that isn't dumb down garbage. Seriously, SP needs better writers if this crap is the best they can come up with when they had at least 3 years development time. I feel like they writing started going bad with Infamous 2, felt like Cole should have had another installment rather than just 2.

      The Midwest is extremely underused in video games. I guess Chicago, Detroit, Indianapolis and Milwaukee would be great places to start.

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    • InFAMOUS 2 was greath though. 

      You have to remember a full year of development time was cut when Sony pushed Second Son up when The Order 1886 got delayed.

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    • I can't help but think how much better the game would have been if it wasn't cut short. I personally was a fan of inFamous 2's story, I liked Cole more in that one than the first game.

      I would love to see the game take place in Minneapolis/St Paul. I mean, how many games can you think of take place in those cities? Plus I'd love to play a game close to my hometown for once

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    • Chicago would be an unlikely choice, as Watch Dogs is set there. Cities like Indianapolis, Minneapolis or St. Louis may be good choices, but are unlikely.

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    • See it is inFAMOUS 4 but I guess to each his own. Anyway this article has some good points, what do you guys thnik ?

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    • A.)That's not a real source, that's a "what I want to see in a sequel.

      B.)Again, not official confirmation 

      C.)This was posted long before E3 and again, is a WISH LIST.

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    • So no, there is no confirmation of InFAMOUS 4

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    • There's no confirmation of another inFAMOUS game period, but we can always dream. Maybe one day.

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    • One way to remedy such a transparent system could be through the addition of dialogue choices for the player. The Witcher 3 had you forming Geralt’s moral compass as you progressed. Even Mass Effect: Andromeda evolved that series’ morality system to include a healthy shade of grey to the mix, so that the choices you made in the opening moments didn’t dictate every move until the credits rolled. None of your words were guided by red/blue options indicating the consequence of each word. Sucker Punch needn’t hold our hand, and may improve its narrative as a result. I think that'd be pretty c00l.

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    • Also, be honest, Second Son's adaptation of Seattle was a little miserable. The dingy backstreets and rain-drenched cityscape was a joy to climb upon and looked lovely, but it simply wasn’t very fun to explore outside of the story missions. Side activities were little more than repetitive combat trials and gimmicky mini-games with little to no substance.

      I think the people want the next inFAMOUS to break new ground with a setting that strikes a new standard in terms of size and scope. When compared to the likes of other PS4 exclusives such as Uncharted 4 and Bloodborne, the world of previous Infamous games feel miniscule. They’re still great fun, but simply don’t match up to their contemporaries.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Chicago would be an unlikely choice, as Watch Dogs is set there. Cities like Indianapolis, Minneapolis or St. Louis may be good choices, but are unlikely.


      I do not get this absurd logic of "because one game did no other games should do it". It didn't stop The Last of Us, Fallout 4 and Quantum Break(They called it Riverport but it is clearly Boston) from using the same location. Even if SP did copy Boston for the setting for the next game, at least it won't be entirely in ruins/quarantine like in Fallout 4 or TLOU.

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    • Well we're not saying because on game did it, it means they can't, we're just saying that a game that takes place in a new city not many other games have attempted would be ideal. We already had one take place in the east, south, and west, now let's see them try the Midwest, like Minneapolis or St. Louis

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    • Fuck infamous second son. We all love the original 2 games with Cole and Zeke. The fourth game can be set after the second game, playing off the good ending where Cole dies. You play as Zeke, who finally gets powers after a new source of energy is created. This game has a lot of potential to have a very emotional story with the comic art style as Zeke describes the loss of Cole. We know Zeke is not always the most responsible person, making a great excuse for him being evil. All conduits died in the second game (as I remember???) so there would have to be some kind of new threat in either a revamped empire city or another, that would allow the making of a new conduit. Maybe Zeke creates a way to make himself a conduit with blast cores. He was very smart with technology in the second game, (hacking propaganda onto the big screen in the city). 

      This idea needs more elaboration but to conclude my thoughts I also came up with a dlc or maybe just a bonus campaign. A shorter story that plays off where Cole kills Zeke in the second game. Cole has some flash backs to killing his best friend. He is now the Beast. He destroys everything, killing countless enemies, stronger then ever before. You could also fight any conduits willing to stand in your way, as well as fight with any that side with you. This might work better as an arcade mode, killing and destroying as much as possible to gang points and compete scores online.

      If you support my thoughts please reply and add ideas.

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    • How about they soft reboot the franchise? I'd definitely like a game that doesn't tie into any of the other games.

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    • ChaosKing44 said: I had an idea, what if for the next infamous game the character chooses the power that they want, like give 3 choices. for example, hydrokinesis, pyrokenesis, and control of metal. The character doesn't gain additional powers except ones that stem from their power of choice.

      Each power would have their own pros and cons, for example water you could go in the water and you could recharge instantly be being submerged but in the centre of the city you would need to look for a fire hydrant. But you lose water if you don't recharge every now and again

      Pyrokinesis, you need to deal damage to say a tree or a car to be able to recharge, or find an already started fire. But, coming into contact with water can drain your supply

      Metal, you receive armour when you recharge, making you more durable based on how you per supply is doing and taking damage can reduce your supply. But your attacks will need to be arched due to the weight of metal shots.

      This would keep the game engaging for longer periods of time. Feel free to include whatever you think to make this idea better and any other time powers you think would be a good fit.

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    • Even if Cole stays dead, there's still a chance that Conduits that were from Cole's Era are still alive in the Infamous Universe.

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    • Its kinda funny because many people want cole back from the dead. But did he not become the beast in the evil story mode? So it begs the question, which story is second son a continuation of? Hero Cole, or evil cole?

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    • 2600:387:1:804:0:0:0:1D wrote:
      Its kinda funny because many people want cole back from the dead. But did he not become the beast in the evil story mode? So it begs the question, which story is second son a continuation of? Hero Cole, or evil cole?


      The story of Second Son takes place 7 years after Infamous 2's good ending. Originally, Sucker Punch wanted to go with the evil ending as it "set the game world up in a good way", but they decided on using trophy data from the previous game. I wish they would have chosen the evil ending.

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    • Why do you wish they would've chosen the evil ending? So Cole would still be alive? Although the evil ending would've made a better story for SS in my opinion.

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    • PariahParadox: if second son was based in the good ending why are there still conduits and seven years prior delsin, fetch, eugene and augistine would have died during the RFI explosion, but it's also not the bad ending because cole is dead in a way both and neither endings.

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    • No...no...you...no...

      Second Son takes place after the good ending. You want proof? ZEKE IS STILL ALIVE. That's all you need.

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    • 220.245.43.165 wrote:
      PariahParadox: if second son was based in the good ending why are there still conduits and seven years prior delsin, fetch, eugene and augistine would have died during the RFI explosion, but it's also not the bad ending because cole is dead in a way both and neither endings.


      Sucker Punch has been interviewed MULTIPLE times about this. Since you are apparently too lazy to use Google here you go.

      http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-03-11-infamous-second-son-interview

      If you are curious why Conduits are still a thing there are reasons, kinda half-assed retcon reasons but reasons nonetheless. The plague mutating regular people into Conduits after the RFI activated, the RFI eradicated a majority of Conduits rather than all of them and some Conduits having a resistance to the RFI. The list goes on and on. The main reason is Sucker Punch wrote themselves into a corner and this was there retcon repair job.

      And like JIm Logan said: Zeke is still alive. What more proof do you need?

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    • He needs to feel the power of the next inFAMOUS game

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    • If they make a with a different protagonist, then they should do the opposite of what Second Son did: have it set after the Evil ending of Second Son. The protagonist(s) could live in a time where after releasing all the captive conduits from Curdun Cay and absorbing their powers, Delsin has tried to take over the country since he now sees himself as god-like and he uses an army of Conduits he released from CC and ex-DUP members who took his side to enforce his tyranny over non-Conduits. The protagonist(s) would obviously think that Delsin's views are wrong and that Conduits and non-Conduits should be able to live together as one, and they travel across they country in order to defeat him and his army.

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    • Except they're not. They've never had a game set after an Evil Karma ending, that would alienate the 80% of people who either didn't choose the Evil Karma path, or didn't even play it at all.

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    • Everyone seems to be looking to the future and crummy, desperate ways to bring Cole back, there could be multiple ways to bring back good ol' McGrath without making zero sense or breaking the realism.

      Remember that Kessler, who was Cole from essentially a different timeline, where his family and life were all torn away from him, used his ability to time travel to save himself from that tragedy. Why not just revisit time travel, have a group of conduits living in the aftermath second son opressed by a now power hungry Delsin, who could've gotten to such a point after the death of Eugene, or fetch (if we are to follow the good ending) Their death would lead Delsin to realise that conduits and humans can never coexist so he enacts a sort of Holocaust like event.

      A branch of rebel conduits disagree with Delsins decision to eliminate the inferior humans, and they remember the sacrifices Cole made, and look to his legacy as an influences, a dream of what life could be like with humans and conduits living harmoniously. Knowing of Coles sacrifice and story, they can track down Zeke, who will aide them on their quest to defeat Delsin. Knowing time travel exists this could send the group on a journey to find a conduit who possesses this power, but just finding him won't be enough. A conduit of equal power to Cole's would have to take his place in activating the RFI, thus keeping with the series' theme of sacrifice.

      Cole, now saved, would be brought back into a world so different from the one he sacrificed himself to save. This could also be an opportunity to bring some emotion into the game with the reuniting of Cole and Zeke, who will work together to save the world "one last time" Cole of course won't be able to beat Delsin alone, so it could revisit 2's theme of teamwork and have the rebel conduits work together and possibly sacrifice themselves, to defeat Delsin.

      The end could then come down to the decision of actually defeating Delsin, or instead after hearing Delsins plan for the future, which could play to the idea that with humans still in control, conduits will never be safe, and could hint at humans developing conduit powers into weapons that could lead to the destruction of the world.

      Then it would be up to the player to decide which ending is the "good" ending.

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    • "Power hungry Delsin" that would be Evil Karma.

      Which again.

      They've never done as EVIL KARMA ISN'T CANON.

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    • Did you not read the part where I said Delsin would be the games antagonist, it would follow the GOOD KARMA ending of second son and have to where Delsin snaps after Eugine or Fetch or whoever the fuck gets killed by the government or military, making him realize that Conduits and Humans can never live peacefully

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    • I have an idea in my head of if Delsin turns evil, whether out of the death of Eugene or Fetch (or something else) they stop being allies with him, and that whoever has to stop Delsin with the help of Eugene and/or Fetch, while also tracking down Hank to help and getting Augustine released/broken out of prison to help bring Delsin down.

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    • That doesn't really make sense. Why would Delsin snap and turn evil after the good ending?

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    • Yeah if you're just going to have Delsin turn evil even after the good ending, it would make the whole story and every thing he did in Second Son seem pointless. If you're just going to do that, they might as well go with the evil ending which they won't and shouldn't

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    • They might as well create a new protagonist with a new location and new characters, while maybe having the story relate closer to the original two games than SS did.

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    • i personally think if they make i knew game, which i hope they do.

      They need to somehow make a weapon that takes away all of delsins powers,

      and he either gets the old ones in a stronger form or gets a totally new power base

      or possibly a bit of both.

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    • Man, this is a desperate as hell string of comments to read through.

      1. Cole is dead and stays dead unless SP retcons or plays with the good ending cutscene with the "?" lightning strike and the "powerful bioterrorist body", but they damned well better have some Pulitzer Prize reasoning to make it work as a result.

      2. Electricty powers can return as long as its not "new character, copy-pasted powers", but that's damn hard since Cole had 2 games of utilizing electricty short of turning into it to travel like Fetch/Delsin and Paper Conduit. And please tell me how are you gonna go beyond summoning the embodiment of electricty that Cole unleashed in the literal first game for the 4th within the canon story (which will continue to follow the good karma endings)?

      3. Not everyone likes Delsin, sure, but not everyone hates him either. Had things gone to plan (games not being delayed and pressed upfront into crunch time) SS likely would've been up there with Cole's story, but honestly, I'm in the field where I don't hate him, but I never struck this love-boner for Cole either playing the first inFamous.

      4. Killing off Delsin when his good ending is the story continuation would really make playing SS pointless, moreso than bringing Cole back from the dead without that Pulitzer Prize winning reasoning to do so.

      5. Had inFamous 2 been the complete ending of the series, then the RFI activation would've killed off every conduit on earth, but if a sequal story need be made, it's really not uncommon for "Doomsday Device from previous installation" to "miss" a fair amount of its intended targets when the trait becomes treated like a bacteria (some strains die others survive and it lives on). Why do you think SS itself as a "good ending" leaves room open for another installation to happen with released conduits, an imprisoned Brooke (likely to break out if surveillance lapses like Hank did), and at least Seattle being more open that "not every conduit is bad because of the Beast".

      6. The person who mentioned a sequel including Celia (the first one impronsed in Curdan Cay), if you bothered to collect the audio logs, you would've known that she committed suicide before she was set to transfer to a military-owned prison and Brooke knew this. The only way that's happening is if its a flashback like most of First Light was.

      And lastly, aside from Zeke still being alive in Secon Son, the other clue that the game is set after the good ending of I2 is because the Beast (The Living Ray Sphere) kills normal humans who don't have the conduit gene while activating the genes of those who do hold it. If Beast-Cole was still roaming, not a single normal human would be alive in Seattle, the Ray Sphere Plague would still be talked about via the news station as would the civilians and the same station be mentioning the "monster" making its way across the country (and world most likely) killing everyone.

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    • If you bothered to actually play Second Son, you'd realize Celia is alive...

      Celia

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    • OK, i don't think there will be a next Infamous game, because if there was, where would Sucker Punch go now that humanity has accepted Conduits and are co-existing with them? Like would the military still want them dead and civilians would defend them causing a rift between them?

      Would a rogue conduit stir up trouble and anew conduit has to pick up the slack if Delsin's not available?

      I'm just being realistic here, where would Sucker Punch honestly go with the franchise?

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    • There's plenty of places they could go with the franchise. I'd say start over completely, new protagonist, new location (like SS) but obviously with a much better story and characters this time around. And maybe have more connection to the first two games but still have a standalone story.

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    • "Humanity has accepted Conduits" 

      Just because two cites accept them, doesn't mean the whole world will, especially after a single Conduit wiped out a quarter of the United States and nearly killed them all by spreading the Plague.

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    • Jim Logan wrote: "Humanity has accepted Conduits" 

      Just because two cites accept them, doesn't mean the whole world will, especially after a single Conduit wiped out a quarter of the United States and nearly killed them all by spreading the Plague.

      You're right. Only question is , how long will that grudge last?

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    • I just want another inFAMOUS title in general I wouldn't complain either way! I just hope they make a couple more.

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    • >Conduit nearly kills the entire world 

      >"How long will that grudge last"

      We're still pissed at Germany for the crap they pulled in World War One. You really think our entire species nearly getting wiped out will just be forgotten?

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    • Jim Logan wrote: >Conduit nearly kills the entire world 

      >"How long will that grudge last"

      We're still pissed at Germany for the crap they pulled in World War One. You really think our entire species nearly getting wiped out will just be forgotten?

      I suppose not. Would make for a good reference in a mid-quel.

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    • It would be cool if they made it so you could make your own character and keep the karma system

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      The DUP and Delsin made Cole's death mean nothing. The DUP hopped on the "Conduits are evil" train, RENAMED them as Bioterrorists and tainted their image in the public's eye. Cole's death was wrecked the second Augustine got put in power. Delsin didn't help it, since, to the general public. He's a terrorist who blew up a GOVERNMENT FUNDED AGENCY. 

      Cole coming back would be great, and could lead to some interesting stories. Besides, Cole was a far more interesting protagonist than Delsin ever could be. Now before certain people jump down my throat claiming Baker hate, I do NOT blame Baker. I do NOT blame Nate Fox. Sony cut an entire year of Sucker Punch's development time leading to massive script re-writes WHILE motion capture was happening. The only reason Cole wasn't back for the game was because Eric Ladin was filming a movie at the time SS was in development. 


      Okay TL;DR Should Cole come back? I say yes, there's a lot of potential of great stories to be told. Will he be back? Considering Eric's still got a contract with Sucker Punch, I say yes. Will he be back soon? I dunno, I don't work for SP. And before anyone says "Cole's dead, he's not coming back."  Marvel said the same about Gwen Stacy and Bucky Rodgers (aka Winter Soldier), look what happened there.

      technically they didnt bring Gwen back, its a spiderverse thing where Gwen is Spidey in one universe but i get what your laying down dude


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    • They've brought Gwen back multiple times

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    • What if fetch became like a Gwen character where she returned in the next game but died(ed)

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    • I woudlnt say Delsin is bad. Sometimes he can also be an idiot but not that super bad acting like a 12-year old kid, like the Dante from DmC:Devil May Cry. SP should make another game with either Cole or Delsin. If Delsin, i think it will be better if they develop him in a better way so infamous fans regain their interest. If Cole, then no need for improvement.

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    • Jim Logan wrote: I really feel bad for Troy Baker, he did his damndest to make Delsin work, but the script just wasn't there.

      You shouldn't feel bad, Troy acts in like every video game. He gets paid enough, no need to feel bad, saan

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    • I just hope that there are many more powers, with lots of upgrades to make the game just that little bit more fun. ....and explosions.

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    • 68.188.200.77 wrote: I just hope that there are many more powers, with lots of upgrades to make the game just that little bit more fun. ....and explosions.

      Yea right i agree

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      That doesn't really make sense. Why would Delsin snap and turn evil after the good ending?

      They could have Fetch and Eugene sacrificing themselves to save -insert number here- of civilians, or something like that. That could cause Delsin to snap.

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    • Delsins Powers were what made him a rubbish character. It was a good idea but not thought out properly. There just wasn't enough development with his powers. You only had access to base level powers for each power set never truely developing them like you did in inFamous 1 and 2. and the fact that you couldnt use them together was very dissapointing in InFamous 2 cole could use his powers in conjunction with eachother and they worked really well. They tried to make Delsin too OP but failed misserably and the game just didnt have any change in difficulty. apart from Eugunes angels it was all DUP agents at least in InFamous 1 and 2 you had some change in enemies and difficulty at each stage. also i thought the bosses in SS were a bit naff... I'm not keen on getting the concrete power and then theres nothing for you to use it on.

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    • Well i can t see cole coming back at all because in the limited preorder special edition there is a line of quests called Coles Legacy in which the brother of the beast is trying why conduits came back after the RFI was activated. In the quests you find that Cole is dead and Zeke is leader of the Anti Dup resistance and that Augustene covered up the continued existence of conduits and is also revealed that not all conduits died and only a small amount of weak conduits dying.

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    • And that they modified the virus so i could infect the general population to give powers

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      "Or just make a new protagonist with similar electric powers." That. Would be. POINTLESS. Just bring back Cole at that point.


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    • Why are you copying someone else's quote?

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    • For me I would wnat both Cole and Delsin back for an intuitive story(I want that o happen from PyroGunner's, now called Madman's Knowledge, next InFamous game idea). Even if they don't bring Cole back, I would like to see more of Delsin, a new protagonist, or even jus Cole.

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    • I'm not too sure we'll get a new Infamous for quite a while, if at all. Second Son wasn't the moneymaker the previous two titles were. 

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    • Redexx wrote:
      I'm not too sure we'll get a new Infamous for quite a while, if at all. Second Son wasn't the moneymaker the previous two titles were. 

      Well yeah, due to cut production, a bad release date, a not so ready change, and a horrid story all in one package.

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    • Redexx wrote:
      I'm not too sure we'll get a new Infamous for quite a while, if at all. Second Son wasn't the moneymaker the previous two titles were. 

      If ever at this point. However, this is still the inFAMOUS Wiki so it's healthy to discuss things like this.

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    • I've read every single reply but- yo guys

      What about our socially awkward nerd boi Eugene ; 7 ;

      I would love to see that lil thing grow. I know that some could say how character with such a shy personality could be main protagonist but again. He was mentioned in first game with his holograms. In second game we found out more about him. And lastly it would be amazing to have full power over video power! I mean hella lets summon some angels qwq

      Cole us dead and let him be his role was done. Fetch played her part. Delsin too. I wanna see some more of Eugene heyyy!

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    • You could also potentially make another Infamous game with Cole but make it in between Infamous 1 and 2 kind of like what Star Wars did placing Rogue One between the Original Star Wars Trilogy and the 1-3 Star Wars movies. This new game could just be another adventure that Cole had after Infamous 1

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    • There was a one or two month gap between games. Which was covered in the DC comics.

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    • Yeah. Plus, why make an entire game about events that occurred in between games? That wouldn't make a very good story, as it's the chain that links the two bigger stories together. People want the big stories, not the chains, as games. Weak.

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    • I think it would be cool if they made a DLC-type thing like First Light or Festival of Blood that took place in between the first two games. It would probably be fun to play through and fight the monster that was David Warner. But yeah, it would be stupid for them to make another full inFamous game that takes place during events that already happened in the series.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      As we know, the next inFAMOUS game is overdue (if there even will be one, we don't know for sure). So, can we expect the next inFAMOUS game (inFAMOUS 3, inFAMOUS 4, inFAMOUS: Revenant, whatever the hell the game will be called) to release in 2018? New possibilities can arise. So, what do we think?


      I was thinking there would be a new character who dreams of becoming a Hero to the people. 

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    • But the inFAMOUS series is all about the player deciding the protagonist's actions, not regarding canocity.

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    • I wanna say I think Delsin was great and it would be a little weird to bring Cole back

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    • Another infamous game would be great! There's still a great deal of potential

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    • I don't care who the next protagonist is, I'm really looking forward to a new power.

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    • I really want to see new inFamous game, I've bought Second Son few days ago and it's simply great. I'm happy, 'cause I have powers no guns, this game is an alternative for  GTA V            So, I'm looking forward to another part of inFamous

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    • What other powers could they make? They've done a lot of them already.

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    • so i dont know if this is true or not but i heard something about a infamous game coming out in december 2018

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    • Cole needs to stay dead. I love infamous 1 and 2 I really do. But the fact remains that he legitimately died, no ifs ands or buts. You guys can come up with theories all you want but he. is. dead. accept it.  Let's not to mention that he was laid to rest at sea, so all those theories involving his body is dead in the water.(heh) Bringing back Cole would be a major asspull/retcon and I wonder how many times that has worked out with other series.

      Either way another Infamous game would be great, hopefully at the length of the first 2 games (Infamous SS was too short compared to them) and god hopefully we have an ability with teleportation, that would be super cool.

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    • 62.64.227.229 wrote:
      Delsins Powers were what made him a rubbish character. It was a good idea but not thought out properly. There just wasn't enough development with his powers. You only had access to base level powers for each power set never truly developing them like you did in inFamous 1 and 2. and the fact that you couldn't use them together was very disappointing in InFamous 2 cole could use his powers in conjunction with each other and they worked really well. They tried to make Delsin too OP but failed miserably and the game just didn't have any change in difficulty. apart from Eugene angels it was all DUP agents at least in InFamous 1 and 2 you had some change in enemies and difficulty at each stage. also I thought the bosses in SS were a bit naff... I'm not keen on getting the concrete power and then there's nothing for you to use it on.


      Well I mean the way Cole's power works and the way Delsin's power works is fundamentally different. While I too wanted to be able to use all powers at the same time but there are problems that could go with it. Cole had 2 powers which made it possible to streamline the ice/napalm abilities with the electricity and let us not forget that ice/napalm replaced some of the electric abilities we had.(Grenades/Blasts/Rockets etc.) So I would like to see you try and streamline 4 powers on a controller to be used in conjunction. And maybe the fact that we had multiple powers we were denied the developing of said powers? I mean before it was quality (developing electric powers) over quantity, the opposite for Infamous 2 which was no problem IMO. This problem could've  been fixed if the game was just longer in general. 

      I do agree with the low diversity between enemies, DUP agents and probably gangs and cops didn't really made it all that difficult.

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    • Jas Faux wrote:
      so i dont know if this is true or not but i heard something about a infamous game coming out in december 2018

      Source?

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    • Kadmus Prime wrote:

      Either way another Infamous game would be great, hopefully at the length of the first 2 games (Infamous 2 was too short compared to them) and God hopefully we have an ability with teleportation, that would be super cool.

      You mean inFAMOUS: Second Son, I'd assume.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Kadmus Prime wrote:

      Either way another Infamous game would be great, hopefully at the length of the first 2 games (Infamous 2 was too short compared to them) and God hopefully we have an ability with teleportation, that would be super cool.

      You mean inFAMOUS: Second Son, I'd assume.

      Lol yh I meant that, edited

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Jas Faux wrote:
      so i dont know if this is true or not but i heard something about a infamous game coming out in december 2018
      Source?

      no idea 

      just read about it somewhere

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    • That can be a rumour only. But i do know that SP shelved the Infamous series and is now working on a new game- Ghost of Tsushima. Even Nate Fox wnated to work on something new other than Infamous.

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    • Jas Faux wrote:
      Chris6d wrote:
      Jas Faux wrote:
      so i dont know if this is true or not but i heard something about a infamous game coming out in december 2018
      Source?
      no idea 

      just read about it somewhere

      Then it's not valid.

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    • Jas Faux wrote:
      Chris6d wrote:
      Jas Faux wrote:
      so i dont know if this is true or not but i heard something about a infamous game coming out in december 2018
      Source?
      no idea 

      just read about it somewhere

      There was confirmation that they are working on a game but it's a new ip not another infamous

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    • Yeah, it's Ghost of Tsushima, a samurai game. But not another inFAMOUS, sadly. I have a strong feeling that either SP or another company will continue the inFAMOUS series, because it's such a fantastic series with so much content that it'd be a shame not to. What do you guys think?

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Yeah, it's Ghost of Tsushima, a samurai game. But not another inFAMOUS, sadly. I have a strong feeling that either SP or another company will continue the inFAMOUS series, because it's such a fantastic series with so much content that it'd be a shame not to. What do you guys think?

      Same really want another infamous game. No other game captures the use of powers as fantastically as the infamous series, it's basically one of it's kind. Hopefully, the next infamous game (if there ever is one) expands on the character (or Delsin) having multiple powers or at least expand on the powers he currently has, like develop them more to be on par with the prime conduits the powers came from. (I want a karmic bomb for concrete)

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    • Don't know. But Infamous second son left a lot of unanswered clues that near impossible to solve. I just wish they come up with new ideas and make Delsin a more better charscter than second son. And i hope the new Infamous game( if there will be one) has better final boss than Augustine. She was really easy to defeat.

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    • Tawheed B. Rafsan wrote:
      Don't know. But Infamous second son left a lot of unanswered clues that near impossible to solve. I just wish they come up with new ideas and make Delsin a more better charscter than second son. And i hope the new Infamous game( if there will be one) has better final boss than Augustine. She was really easy to defeat.

      If they made a new inFAMOUS, I highly doubt Delsin will return, especially if it's a reboot. I'd be open to a reboot which continues the original canon, honestly.

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    • Actually it would have been better to keep the evil side canon or making a non canon sequel like inFamous 3, with beast Cole. Maybe then it would have been good

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    • Evil Karma has never been canon, what are you talking about?

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    • I meant that it would have been better if majority players choosed the evil side than the good. Then we could have got an inFamous 3 with Beast Cole. Ik its not canon.

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    • Highly doubt it, but we'll never know as more than double the people chose Good Karma. 

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    • Good Karma may feel nice but it's sure as hell not as fun. 

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    • Says the man named after Evil Dick Grayson :P

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    • Lol

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    • Tawheed B. Rafsan wrote:
      I meant that it would have been better if majority players choosed the evil side than the good. Then we could have got an inFamous 3 with Beast Cole. Ik its not canon.

      But they didn't choosed the evil ending, most choosed the good ending. (Apologies for being that guy)

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    • Would you guys be open to a canon or non-canon inFAMOUS reboot? If SP said they would no longer work on inFAMOUS and gave the IP to another company. That's an interesting thought.

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    • Tawheed B. Rafsan wrote:
      I meant that it would have been better if majority players choosed the evil side than the good. Then we could have got an inFamous 3 with Beast Cole. Ik its not canon.


      Yeah but would Beast Cole be the protagonist or antagonist? It seems to me, everybody assumes he would be the playable protagonist but I feel like no matter what we would have gotten a new playable protagonist, if not Delsin, somebody else.

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    • I'd rather Second Son just be ignored, and the next game focus on Cole and Zeke meeting alternate versions of the characters, as they are now, Abigail is interesting but Delsin is about as appealing as getting teeth pulled.

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    • Interesting stuff. Personally, Cole's story is done but a future return would be nice. Maybe when things become grim for Conduits saviour, Delsin, Cole would step in from living a life in solitude (assuming that lightning bolt resurrected him). Of course, as a writer, I don't expect Cole to be accepted by all considering he did try to wipe out all conduits, from their perspective. There should be some interesting drama. 

      Maybe it'll be, INFAMOUS: ROWE V. MACGRATH

      Read my post idea for a sequel when you guys get a chance.

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    • Zeke confirmed that Cole is dead in the DLC of inFamous Second Son Cole's Legacy. So the lightning bolt resurrecting Cole will be out of question. But the idea was nice by the way. Problem is its kind of logicless since Cole is comfirmed to be dead.

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    • Zeke may have lied so Cole could live out his days as a new man. Why would Cole jump in years later when the danger got to much? Still recuperating, maybe. All in all, though a sequel should have Delsin as lead, there are ways Cole could enter the scene and not have it feel like a retcon. I do remember that dlc, but Cole is not as known across the states. No one talked about him in Second Son except Zeke, and Delsin had a very understandable reaction towards his name - he never knew the man. And, what Zeke states to many as truth, could be an assumption, once again a cover up. Who knows...

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    • It's possible that Zeke lied to keep Cole's legacy from being worth nothing, but I doubt he'd do that.

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    • Yes because I would blurt out that the savior of humanity, and the guy the government placed the blame on for the Empire Event and deaths of millions was still alive over an unsecure line to a 24 year old I don't know nor trust is the SMARTEST THING TO DO.

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    • Ugh. You guys I swear. Can’t yall just wait. Instead of arguing like kids on a playground. Like cmon. Be real.

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    • We're not arguing, we're discussing potential. That's what a forum is. Get it?

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    • 184.100.237.240 wrote:
      Ugh. You guys I swear. Can’t yall just wait. Instead of arguing like kids on a playground. Like cmon. Be real.

      I think you were a conduit that almost died during the RFI and got lock'd up in curdun cay and found a computer in curdun cay to write that comment because you're jealous

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    • Unfortunately, it seems that SuckerPunch has decided to move away from the Infamous series and pursue a new IP. There likely will never be another infamous game, as it's already been 4 years since the last one came out and I doubt people will be interested in an Infamous game released in the distant future, especially considering that Second Son did nothing to keep the interest of fans piqued. All in all, it's looking pretty disappointing for fans of this series, myself included. There truly are very few games that offer what Infamous does and most of those are very old at this point.

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    • You're probably right. I've been with the series since the first game and i don't want to see it go.

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    • Sucker Punch works one game at a time. I won't be surprised if the sequel is greenlit after Ghost of Tsushima. Being the real 2016 +, and Second Son taking place on 2018 +, a realistic time jump matching real world's time is pretty ideal.

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    • Just because a sequel hasn't been released in over 4 years doesn't mean it's officially dead. There are plenty of games that went 10 or 15 years before getting a sequel, just can't remember them right now.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      Just because a sequel hasn't been released in over 4 years doesn't mean it's officially dead. There are plenty of games that went 10 or 15 years before getting a sequel, just can't remember them right now.


      P.S. It's a little embarrassing to be giving yourself kudos. I do suggest you refrain from doing so in the future.

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    • I have no idea why half of my message was deleted after I hit reply, but I'm not really going to bother retyping it. Basically, I see no sign that points to a future installment to this series.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      As we know, the next inFAMOUS game is overdue (if there even will be one, we don't know for sure). So, can we expect the next inFAMOUS game (inFAMOUS 3, inFAMOUS 4, inFAMOUS: Revenant, whatever the hell the game will be called) to release in 2018? New possibilities can arise. So, what do we think?


      Wow i would like see Cole, Zeke and Delsin together, Fetch and Kuo probably cause Infamous 2 is supposed to end good. The Infamous Universe has a  lot of cool characters, and so much potential is wasted if they dont bring something up.

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    • Animalic Conduits would be sweet, since animals may also be bearers of the conduit gene. Good or Evil, I would like to see something happen.

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    • 37.6.22.206 wrote: P.S. It's a little embarrassing to be giving yourself kudos. I do suggest you refrain from doing so in the future.

      Why does it matter to you anyway? Let's not get off-topic.

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    • 37.6.22.206 wrote:
      I have no idea why half of my message was deleted after I hit reply, but I'm not really going to bother retyping it. Basically, I see no point to a future installment to this series.

      Why not? It's a great series with so much potential, I wouldn't be surprised if another company took the IP and made a reboot. But idk.

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      Animalic Conduits would be sweet, since animals may also be bearers of the conduit gene. Good or Evil, I would like to see something happen.

      Goat simulator but the goat is a conduit...

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      37.6.22.206 wrote: P.S. It's a little embarrassing to be giving yourself kudos. I do suggest you refrain from doing so in the future.
      Don't see how it's embarrasing, it's just a habit I guess. Why does it matter to you anyway? Let's not get off-topic.

      You don't see how it's embarrassing? Maybe you are autistic then? Cause liking your own comments to make it seem like people actually agree with what you're saying certainly is not normal behavior. At any rate, your argument is quite weak. It seems like we've seen the last of Infamous with Second Son. 

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    • First Light, actually. And please don't start throwing insults at people.

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    • I always thought Chris6d giving kudos to his/her own comments was unusual but I got over it. Fun fact: Political candidates can vote for themselves, hell any event that allows voting as ,long as you meet criteria, you can vote for yourself.

      Getting back to topic, I feel like Infamous still has more potential in it than SP's current game: Ghost of Tsushima especially since samurai/ninja games have been done before.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      First Light, actually. And please don't start throwing insults at people.

      First Light is an embarrassment of a standalone dlc game, so I just count it together with Second Son, as it's practically one game. Also, didn't feel like Infamous to me, but that's just a personal gripe. No one threw insults, I merely pondered the possibility that he has some sort of issue that would explain his problematic behavior.

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    • PariahParadox wrote:
      I always thought Chris6d giving kudos to his/her own comments was unusual but I got over it. Fun fact: Political candidates can vote for themselves, hell any event that allows voting as ,long as you meet criteria, you can vote for yourself.

      Getting back to topic, I feel like Infamous still has more potential in it than SP's current game: Ghost of Tsushima especially since samurai/ninja games have been done before.

      Man, talk about conflating. You took it to the next level, my friend. What a joke. Anyway, I just think it's super weird for someone to like their own comments, it seems sad and pathetic to me. Obviously you disagree, but that's fine, we do have freedom of speech. You are allowed your own opinion, no matter how wrong it is.

      What potential do you think a new Infamous game has at this juncture? They've written themselves into a dead end for the series. Continuing with Delsin would be suicide, as the character is just not interesting. Rebooting seems like the only logical option, but then, they kinda rebooted with Second Son, as they made Cole's sacrifice meaningless. I don't see any way out of the hell they've written themselves into.

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    • I just don't care because it doesn't affect me. It doesn't affect me in any negative way and it shouldn't affect you as well even though it looks like it does.

      Back on topic again since you like derailing them, they could always try to learn from the mistake that was Delsin try to make him a more likeable character which doesn't seem plausible to me, but hey its an option or they could take the feedback that Delsin received and make a new character from that without running into the same mistakes that Delsin cause, this seems to be the more likely outcome since reviving Cole is completely out of question, IMO.

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    • Au contraire, it seems like it's affecting you a lot more than it does me, considering you felt the need to jump in and defend this weird behavior. I only mentioned it cause I think it's super weird that someone likes their own comments. I think I am the normal human being here. 

      You're the one who keeps mentioning it to me, so if it's derailing (which I don't think it is, as I'm still replying to your other points as well), you're just as much a part of it as I am. I don't believe Sucker Punch can make an interesting character anymore. They don't have competent writers or voice actors (Baker is terrible for this role imo) and the whole mocap thing that makes Delsin look like the voice actor was a serious foul in my book. Delsin looks like the opposite of badass, which is what Cole looked like. As I said, they have creatively killed themselves with their decisions. A reboot, while plausible, still seems highly unlikely, as that would require a competent writer and interest in a future for this series, both of which they just don't have. 

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    • First Light at least told a more grounded character driven story closer to the original InFAMOUS games.

      Second Son tried to pander to the Disney MCU fans by having a wacky light hearted tone with a cool radical EDGY rebellious 24 year old who acts like a 16 year old protagonist. All respects to Troy Baker, he tried his best to make Delsin likeable considering he didn't have a SCRIPT TO WORK OFF OF. But Delsin was a lost cause.

      Abigail was at least more interesting, even if her origin story was fairly generic, as it Nate Fox seemed to draw inspiration from the NYX storyline, but without the trauma that built most of that cast, he just took the "homeless mutants with drug addiction" angle without the rest of it and called it a day.

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    • I know this post is a little old, but...

      I think it would be incredibly cool to see multiplayer implemented in the game. I believe I saw a video a while back explaining that suckerpunch didn't add multiplayer so as to focus on the games story more, but I think it would be super cool. Possibly a create-a-conduit type thing with character customization and power selection? That might solve the issue of a future main character. As it stands, Cole is dead and likely won't be returning and delsins story ended very poorly with a very stark contrast between good and evil which I think doomed his story to go cannon with one of his two sides, killing the possibility of a neutral approach in a SS sequel. I think SS didn't live up to its potential and I almost consider it a spinoff. I think the custom character route is promising and would make for great replayability and possibly even PVP action.

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    • Chris6d
      Chris6d removed this reply because:
      Like the contributor said, this forum should contain inFAMOUS-related posts only, so any posts regarding the argument should be removed.
      15:56, February 19, 2018
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    • VanityFiend wrote: At any rate, your argument is quite weak. It seems like we've seen the last of Infamous with Second Son. 

      What argument? I created this thread, I'm neutral. I have no argument.

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    • stop trying to derail the thread. does it really make a difference in your life whether or not Chris6d liked his own comment a while back? personally I find it a bit odd but it doesnt matter enough to me that I say anything about it. let's just stop arguing and get back on topic, which is the next infamous game.

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    • VanityFiend wrote:
      Jim Logan wrote:
      First Light, actually. And please don't start throwing insults at people.
      No one threw insults, I merely pondered the possibility that he has some sort of issue that would explain his problematic behavior.

      and yeah, calling him sad, pathetic, autistic and saying he has issues and problematic behavior IS throwing insults. even if he did, which he says he doesnt, why do you care. but again this is a good thread and I dont it being derailed, so lets forget about this forever and get back to the topic pls. Thnx

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    • Okay, stop you petty arguing. Take it somewhere else. Keep the conversation on the topic at hand.

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    • I agree; although VanityFiend should've been respectful and not bring up off-topic matters, this forum is what matters and I'm willing to forget what happened and move on, to get back on topic, for the better of this thread. So let's just move on.

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    • 174.255.129.109 wrote:

      I think it would be incredibly cool to see multiplayer implemented in the game. I believe I saw a video a while back explaining that suckerpunch didn't add multiplayer so as to focus on the games story more, but I think it would be super cool. Possibly a create-a-conduit type thing with character customization and power selection? That might solve the issue of a future main character. As it stands, Cole is dead and likely won't be returning and delsins story ended very poorly with a very stark contrast between good and evil which I think doomed his story to go cannon with one of his two sides, killing the possibility of a neutral approach in a SS sequel. I think SS didn't live up to its potential and I almost consider it a spinoff. I think the custom character route is promising and would make for great replayability and possibly even PVP action.

      Multiplayer would be pretty cool to see in an inFAMOUS game. The closest we got to that was the UGC in inFAMOUS 2, which would be sick if they brought back (most likely they wouldn't, but the idea of creating your own missions is epic) but never a true multiplayer. Blasting other players away and collecting their powers? Pretty cool to me.

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    • 174.255.129.109 wrote:
      I know this post is a little old, but...

      I think it would be incredibly cool to see multiplayer implemented in the game. I believe I saw a video a while back explaining that suckerpunch didn't add multiplayer so as to focus on the games story more, but I think it would be super cool. Possibly a create-a-conduit type thing with character customization and power selection? That might solve the issue of a future main character. As it stands, Cole is dead and likely won't be returning and delsins story ended very poorly with a very stark contrast between good and evil which I think doomed his story to go cannon with one of his two sides, killing the possibility of a neutral approach in a SS sequel. I think SS didn't live up to its potential and I almost consider it a spinoff. I think the custom character route is promising and would make for great replayability and possibly even PVP action.

      What you are describing is exactly what Infamous never was and should never ever become; just another multiplayer game with silly toon superheroes, fighting it out with absolutely no meaning. There are plenty of games like that that you can play and even more of them are history by now, for good reason. Such a concept rarely sells to nuanced fans of rpg games. No. Infamous has always been a single player experience and should remain as such. Though, I admit that the user generated content for Infamous 2 was a decent idea and could be suffered for a future title, provided they upgraded it significantly.

      Character creation in Infamous would also be a very silly idea. Character creation doesn't fit this series, it would be a lot of extra work for virtually no payout, as no one ever played Infamous to customize their character. Infamous 1 and 2 did just fine without this useless feature. It could be argued that the alignment-based visual alterations to the appearance of Cole and Delsin are a kind of customization in themselves, along with the alternate color powers, except this actually serves a purpose and is not just for show. 

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      VanityFiend, how dare you call me sad, pathetic and autistic. I'm the opposite of those things, but seems like you described yourself perfectly. How dare you just decide to jump into this thread and attack me for no reason other than me liking my own comment. Honestly, who the hell cares if I liked a comment of mine from a while ago? I don't, but you obviously do. Also, what "problematic" behavior do I have? Because I think my behavior is fine.

      I called you those things based on the behavior you have exhibited, which is definitely a fair assessment. You give kudos to your own comments in a pathetic attempt to make it seem like your points are valid and that people agree with them, which is the definition of sad and pathetic, where I come from. 

      As for problematic behavior, I could make a list after studying your extensive post history on here, but I'm not gonna bother. You're simply not worth the time.

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    • Chris6d wrote:
      I agree; although VanityFiend should've been respectful and not bring up off-topic matters, this forum is what matters and I'm willing to forget what happened and move on, to get back on topic, for the better of this thread. So let's just move on.

      You say you're ready to move on, right after lashing out at me with insults that are completely baseless. I get that this is your defense mechanism when someone calls you out, but come on, just admit you have a problem instead of arguing with me over it. I hope you stop giving kudos to yourself, kid.

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    • Vanity, Chris. Stop. Final warning, if you two continue here you'll both recieve cool down bans. If you want to continue this "fight" take it to chat, or some other site. Not here. Keep on topic.

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    • I'm not a kid, I don't have problems, and I'm not fighting, I'm done. From this point on, I'm ready to put this behind me and move on, for the sake of this forum... my forum. I suggest you do the same.

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    • Jim, I think the posts involving chris6d and vanity fighting should be removed, because they have nothing to do with the original topic, so i think the posts should be removed so this forum contains posts only related to inFAMOUS.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      Vanity, Chris. Stop. Final warning, if you two continue here you'll both recieve cool down bans. If you want to continue this "fight" take it to chat, or some other site. Not here. Keep on topic.

      I would welcome the chance to chat this out with Chris, it's not my intention to derail in any way. This was blown way out of proportion, my apologies. In any case, Jim, I am sure you understand that there really is not much to talk about in regards to the future of this series. At least nothing based on facts and logical continuation. Pretty much everyone here wants some sort of reboot, which to me seems to hint that it was wise of SP to pursue another IP over Infamous, as they clearly lack the means to produce a top notch game, the caliber of Infamous 2.

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    • I dunno, I really don't know. I'd love to see them just ignore Second Son and make a sequel built around Cole and end it on a high note. Not let the franchise end with a whimper.

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    • Ah, wouldn't we all? But the reality of it is, Cole is canon dead and they can't bring him back unless they want to negate the whole of Infamous 2, which was their best game. Now you understand what I mean when I say that they've written themselves to a dead end. There are, sadly, no attractive options for this series going forward.  

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    • Well, it's a comic book based video game.

      And in comic books (trust me) no one stays dead unless your name is Uncle Ben. They could find a way to revive him easily. It might be dumb, but it'd be better than suffering through another Delsin.

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    • Of course they could bring Cole back, they can do anything they want. They could always make an excuse. But Cole died for a reason, and bringing him back would make his death worthless. Although inFAMOUS: Second Son kind of already did that by returning condui- ahem, 'bioterrorists'.

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    • I see some guy made a 40 minute video regarding his idea for a potential inFAMOUS sequel, and what would and wouldn't work. I've seen a little bit of it but not enough, so if anyone wants to watch it and tell what they think of it, by all means they can. Just putting this out there. Idk if it's good or not.

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    • 97.99.14.140 wrote:
      You know, if we do get another game in the inFAMOUS series and it's not a sequel to Second Son. I would die happy.

      Now I believe what we actually need are games to bridge the gap between inFAMOUS 2 and inFAMOUS: SECOND SON. Now you're probrably wondering why would Sucker Punch want to do that? Well it could give us an idea of what types of Conduits were still running around and how many Augustine had captured, we could get answers on how Conduits are still alive when they should be dead, and we could get references to the previous two games.

      But, if Sucker Punch does continue doing some routes from Marvel, then they need to expand their stories. Like have a conduit with plant powers be like Spider-Man, a conduit with shockwaves be like Thor, a conduit with radiation be like the Hulk or even Godzilla, a metal one be Wolverine, four conduits like the Fantastic Four, most of them like The Avengers, some actual teenage and child ones be like the Runaways for crying out loud. C'mon SP expand your stories, do something new with your rpotags, be creative.

      And Jim, i would LOVE Cole to come back as I absolutely HATED DElSIN. I mean, COME ON SUCKER PUNCH AND SONY, did you guys honestly think we were ready for a new inFAMOUS that early and one with a damn power sponge to boot, c'mon guys what were you thinking. 

      Delsin, to me, just didn't fit, his story didn't fit, his powers didn't fit, hell, even his  moral choices didn't fit so good with me. He felt pointless, he felt generic, he dumbed down, he felt like overall crap. But i blame Sony for all of that. I will be glad with a new protagonist anyday of the week. I just want Delsin, his tribe, his enemies, everything about him dead and forgotten.

      And if Cole does come back, here's how i think he will.

      It starts ten months after Second Son and most Conduits are living normal lives after going back to their homes, friends, and families. A group of mysterious people are at Cole's grave and dig up his body. They hope to ressurect his body to use it against Delsin to destroy him. A lightning storm occurs and the bolts strike Cole's body destroying the decayed flash around his skeleton and it makes his entire body appear in tip-top condition. However, this has a side effect of bringing his evil half a body of his own who wakes up immediately and sees his good half.

      Evil! Cole, or Loce as i would call him, decides not to kill Cole and kills the people who dug him up and decides to test out how powerful he's gotten and is impressed by the results. Afterwards, he hears rumors about Delsin and his heroics and that he was out in Germany doing some work with Soldiers who were giving some of their Conduits a hard time. Loce decides to wait and give Delsin a little 'Welcome Home' present.

      While Delsin comes back home to Seattle, he sees it shambles and also sees Fetch, Eugene and Celia lying dead onto the streets. He becomes horrified and checks their bodies, Celia has enough life left in her to tell him that someone named 'Loce' was responsible for the destruction and tells him how sorry she was for being so blind and foolish. Delsin now angered, hears an explosion occur and sees it coming from the woods.

      He immediately realizes it his tribe was in danger and runs off to where he sees the smoke and sees Loce standing there with his arms crossed smirking at his work. Delsin now seething with rage attacks recklessly, something Loce uses to his advantage and manages to kill Delsin with his bio-leech power. Loce believes he has won, but his battle was not over yet as Cole has awakened and ses what Loce had done to the city he was buried in before setting to kill his evil counterpart.

      Look. for anyone against this idea, I am sorry but like I said, Delsin just didn't fit and if a new game does happen, I just wish it to be a mid-quel bridging the gap between the previous two games and Second Son.

      Cool idea, but sounds very far fetched. anyone else agree or want to expand on this?

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    • 108.30.110.252 wrote:

      97.99.14.140 wrote:
      You know, if we do get another game in the inFAMOUS series and it's not a sequel to Second Son. I would die happy.

      Now I believe what we actually need are games to bridge the gap between inFAMOUS 2 and inFAMOUS: SECOND SON. Now you're probrably wondering why would Sucker Punch want to do that? Well it could give us an idea of what types of Conduits were still running around and how many Augustine had captured, we could get answers on how Conduits are still alive when they should be dead, and we could get references to the previous two games.

      But, if Sucker Punch does continue doing some routes from Marvel, then they need to expand their stories. Like have a conduit with plant powers be like Spider-Man, a conduit with shockwaves be like Thor, a conduit with radiation be like the Hulk or even Godzilla, a metal one be Wolverine, four conduits like the Fantastic Four, most of them like The Avengers, some actual teenage and child ones be like the Runaways for crying out loud. C'mon SP expand your stories, do something new with your rpotags, be creative.

      And Jim, i would LOVE Cole to come back as I absolutely HATED DElSIN. I mean, COME ON SUCKER PUNCH AND SONY, did you guys honestly think we were ready for a new inFAMOUS that early and one with a damn power sponge to boot, c'mon guys what were you thinking. 

      Delsin, to me, just didn't fit, his story didn't fit, his powers didn't fit, hell, even his  moral choices didn't fit so good with me. He felt pointless, he felt generic, he dumbed down, he felt like overall crap. But i blame Sony for all of that. I will be glad with a new protagonist anyday of the week. I just want Delsin, his tribe, his enemies, everything about him dead and forgotten.

      And if Cole does come back, here's how i think he will.

      It starts ten months after Second Son and most Conduits are living normal lives after going back to their homes, friends, and families. A group of mysterious people are at Cole's grave and dig up his body. They hope to ressurect his body to use it against Delsin to destroy him. A lightning storm occurs and the bolts strike Cole's body destroying the decayed flash around his skeleton and it makes his entire body appear in tip-top condition. However, this has a side effect of bringing his evil half a body of his own who wakes up immediately and sees his good half.

      Evil! Cole, or Loce as i would call him, decides not to kill Cole and kills the people who dug him up and decides to test out how powerful he's gotten and is impressed by the results. Afterwards, he hears rumors about Delsin and his heroics and that he was out in Germany doing some work with Soldiers who were giving some of their Conduits a hard time. Loce decides to wait and give Delsin a little 'Welcome Home' present.

      While Delsin comes back home to Seattle, he sees it shambles and also sees Fetch, Eugene and Celia lying dead onto the streets. He becomes horrified and checks their bodies, Celia has enough life left in her to tell him that someone named 'Loce' was responsible for the destruction and tells him how sorry she was for being so blind and foolish. Delsin now angered, hears an explosion occur and sees it coming from the woods.

      He immediately realizes it his tribe was in danger and runs off to where he sees the smoke and sees Loce standing there with his arms crossed smirking at his work. Delsin now seething with rage attacks recklessly, something Loce uses to his advantage and manages to kill Delsin with his bio-leech power. Loce believes he has won, but his battle was not over yet as Cole has awakened and ses what Loce had done to the city he was buried in before setting to kill his evil counterpart.

      Look. for anyone against this idea, I am sorry but like I said, Delsin just didn't fit and if a new game does happen, I just wish it to be a mid-quel bridging the gap between the previous two games and Second Son.

      Cool idea, but sounds very far fetched. anyone else agree or want to expand on this?

      I can see Delsin stretching his hand to Celia, gaining her power and memories as she's not able to talk. I would imagine Delsin to have much more cintrol, and better, an understanding of how his power and powers would work. A bioleech won't take him out easy, cuz from the game's standpoint, until you get to fanfiction there, Delsin would have mastered Paper, maybe oin the guy down. Until Cole fires lightning, sending Delsin back. They don't know each other personally, but Delsin has learned a bit about Cole in his chats with Zeke (Second Son DLC). At this point, Delsin has access to improved versions of his powers from Second Son + Paper, achieving them close / surpass the originals before the end. Let the war begin.

      Honestly, bringing Cole in this fashion is not too bad of an idea. But the story needs to broaden more. What happened to finding Augustine? Or would that be an unlikely alliance between she and Delsin, after her change of heart. After seeing Delsin unite conduits and humans together. Cole's evil will be problematic, reversing unity to anarchy once again, though not as drastic. This is detrimental to Cole's heroics, his legacy if all this goes down, and I rather Cole be remembered for the good.

      Leading to the whole split of things, dual Coles, a stupid idea. Breaking way of what it means to be Infamous or a Hero. Not two obvious sides that will be just a war.

      I understand using Marvel or DC as obvvious references, but Infamous needs its own systems. I've created an idea for one, such as fitting conduits under categories: the premise remains same, absorbing ones element, but there are more elements than we realize.

      Categories like: ELEMENT: Cole Macgrath, Brook Augustine, PERIODIC: Fetch SPECIAL-ELEMENT: Celia Penderghast, Eugene Sim UNIQUE: Delsin BEAST: Bertrand III (formerly ELEMENT, and I always thought his element was acid, before upgrading into Beast, a lizard form, so you can see the correlation there. To keep kthings consistent)

      Also, I get the Delsin hate but I disagree on your angle of it. The guy improves and unspderstands his morals as the game progresses. The writing and direction, even intensity of some events were not that good, but the idea was pretty clear.

      I don't blame Sony, but Nate Fox, creative director or whatever of Sucker Punch: who just seems lazy and unchangeable to me. But I digress. Keep thinking, friend, and don't let dislike to alter story. Story is key afterall, and games need to be fun and interesting, is all.

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    • Jim Logan wrote: "Humanity has accepted Conduits" 

      Just because two cites accept them, doesn't mean the whole world will, especially after a single Conduit wiped out a quarter of the United States and nearly killed them all by spreading the Plague.

      Half the country doesn't even accept Trump, how could the rest of the world accept conduits

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    • You guys need to remember Second Son suffered from a lost year of development time after Sony pushed them up to replace the Order 1886. You can't put all the blame on Nate Fox, but he, and the talent behind the game worked with what they could.

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    • As long as the next infamous game is not like watch dogs 2. Watch dogs 2's story and characters were beyond horrific, way worse than second son on all levels. As long as its not like that, i'm good.

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    • Anyone think SP's new game, the samurai one, will b better than infamous?

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    • Hey Vanity nice to see you put this behind. Hopefully we can move forward.

      I am more gameplay oriented person, so honestly I don't really mind as much in terms of story but I do like to see consistency. If Cole does come back, how would they change gameplay up for him? I like the concept of having mutiple powers at once because of how many gameplay nuances you can have with them, but Second Son dropped the ball on this among other things. I just don't see this happening with Cole unless he meets with another First Sons' scientist who just so happened to develop a power transfer device and Cole just happen to meet up with other Conduits to get powers from.

      Like it or not, Delsin's Power Absorption feels more organic towards storytelling and gameplay. Now if they could get a more talented writer then maybe they can salvage Delsin.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      You guys need to remember Second Son suffered from a lost year of development time after Sony pushed them up to replace the Order 1886. You can't put all the blame on Nate Fox, but he, and the talent behind the game worked with what they could.

      I can't help but notice you staunchly support Second Son, Jim. This is most curious, considering you're the very person saying it was a disappointment and you wish to forget it, a few comments back. Which is it? Giving props and making excuses only makes it seem like you enjoyed Troy Baker as the protagonist and all the atrocious writing. Second Son was nothing but early filler for the PS4, a graphical display to entice people to buy the new system. To that end, it did succeed, but not as an independent installment to a successful series.

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    • PariahParadox wrote:
      Hey Vanity nice to see you put this behind. Hopefully we can move forward.

      I am more gameplay oriented person, so honestly I don't really mind as much in terms of story but I do like to see consistency. If Cole does come back, how would they change gameplay up for him? I like the concept of having mutiple powers at once because of how many gameplay nuances you can have with them, but Second Son dropped the ball on this among other things. I just don't see this happening with Cole unless he meets with another First Sons' scientist who just so happened to develop a power transfer device and Cole just happen to meet up with other Conduits to get powers from.

      Like it or not, Delsin's Power Absorption feels more organic towards storytelling and gameplay. Now if they could get a more talented writer then maybe they can salvage Delsin.

      We already have moved forward, try to keep up, Pariah.

      I don't understand your approach. Why would you sacrifice either one? Gameplay is certainly important, but I can mention a bunch of games with subpar gameplay that had amazing storytelling and managed to become successes. Strictly speaking, story is by far more important in an RPG game, this is basic stuff. It's why Dragon Age is such a success -- I could never get into it due to the terrible gameplay -- but it is a success nonetheless. Infamous 1 and 2 had excellent gameplay, 2 more so than the original, but the main draw was the story. Cole was an ordinary dude who was at the wrong place at the wrong time and ends up activating powers he never knew he had, using them either selfishly or for the greater good. A simple yet captivating story. 

      Setting aside your fanfic to get to the core of your argument, I have to disagree with you. The whole "power sponge", power mimicry and absorption thing is sorely overdone. I would much rather have one set of powers that is very refined than have a bunch of silly powers (come on, neon, smoke and video were lame as hell and made no sense) and even ones that are unfinished (CONCRETE). More is not always better and in this case, it was a calamity, imo.

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    • I'm split, I give Troy props for at least trying to make Delsin work despite the lack of an actual script. But he didn't do enough. I applaud the team behind Sucker Punch giving it their all, but the loss of a full year of development time hurt them and it shows. I do not care for Second Son, for everything they did right, they did at least two things wrong. It was obvious Sony wanted to continue the franchise with several sequels, but without Cole, a horrible protagonist in Delsin, and an underwhelming story in Second Son that did more in setting up a sequel than developing Delsin as a proper protagonist, it felt half baked, like a game that had half of it chopped off for DLC, but the DLC never came.

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    • Wasn't talking about sacrificing story, just personal preference: I like having a video game that is fun to play and has wider area, more missions and more powers. A good majority of people just keep talking about bringing back Cole without so much as giving a thought about what gameplay elements they want to see, powers they want to see, more gameplay mechanics, etc.

      Fanfic? What the hell are you talking about? How is the power sponge thing overused exactly? I agree that the powers chosen lacked appeal, I would've like to see gravity or even return to fire or ice. Something that screams "I am not to be trifled with." If they gave each powerset a specific set of advantages/disadvantages the idea for multiple powerset can still have merit, not to mention you can have certain powersets work well off of each other and have different effects on the environment to gain an advantage against certain enemies. I feel like just going back to one powerset is a step backward.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      I'm split, I give Troy props for at least trying to make Delsin work despite the lack of an actual script. But he didn't do enough.

      I applaud the team behind Sucker Punch giving it their all, but the loss of a full year of development time hurt them and it shows. I do not care for Second Son, for everything they did right, they did at least two things wrong. It was obvious Sony wanted to continue the franchise with several sequels, but without Cole, a horrible protagonist in Delsin, and an underwhelming story in Second Son that did more in setting up a sequel than developing Delsin as a proper protagonist, it felt half baked, like a game that had half of it chopped off for DLC, but the DLC never came.

      I agree with this assessment, but you give Baker more props than he deserves. He's not a good fit for Infamous, especially for mocap. As for the writing, I think this game actually had no writer. The writer from Infamous 2 was definitely not in charge of Second Son.

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    • PariahParadox wrote:
      Wasn't talking about sacrificing story, just personal preference: I like having a video game that is fun to play and has wider area, more missions and more powers. A good majority of people just keep talking about bringing back Cole without so much as giving a thought about what gameplay elements they want to see, powers they want to see, more gameplay mechanics, etc.

      Fanfic? What the hell are you talking about? How is the power sponge thing overused exactly? I agree that the powers chosen lacked appeal, I would've like to see gravity or even return to fire or ice. Something that screams "I am not to be trifled with." If they gave each powerset a specific set of advantages/disadvantages the idea for multiple powerset can still have merit, not to mention you can have certain powersets work well off of each other and have different effects on the environment to gain an advantage against certain enemies. I feel like just going back to one powerset is a step backward.

      Sounds to me like you just want an open world rpg, go play GTA or something. This isn't what Infamous is or should attempt to be. 

      I am referring to your ridiculous personal scenarios for a future Infamous title, I don't think there was anything unclear there. The power sponge thing is a ripoff of already existing comic book heroes with the same or very similar power. You can always do some research on your own, Pariah. The powers you suggest would be even worse, as they are really, really overdone by now (ice and fire, the most typical powers ever). Not to mention that Ice and Fire already were in Infamous 2, as secondary powers you got from either Nyx or Quo. I am fully against having multiple powers, it's a needless endeavor that SP will probably half-ass once again like they did with SS, because it actually is a ton of work to implement different sets of powers, power sources and the like into a game. I was perfectly fine frying losers with electricity, over and over and over again. It doesn't get as repetitive as you make it sound.

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    • Nix, not Nyx.

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    • VanityFiend wrote:
      Jim Logan wrote:
      I'm split, I give Troy props for at least trying to make Delsin work despite the lack of an actual script. But he didn't do enough.

      I applaud the team behind Sucker Punch giving it their all, but the loss of a full year of development time hurt them and it shows. I do not care for Second Son, for everything they did right, they did at least two things wrong. It was obvious Sony wanted to continue the franchise with several sequels, but without Cole, a horrible protagonist in Delsin, and an underwhelming story in Second Son that did more in setting up a sequel than developing Delsin as a proper protagonist, it felt half baked, like a game that had half of it chopped off for DLC, but the DLC never came.

      I agree with this assessment, but you give Baker more props than he deserves. He's not a good fit for Infamous, especially for mocap. As for the writing, I think this game actually had no writer. The writer from Infamous 2 was definitely not in charge of Second Son.

      Baker is an excellent actor, and motion capture isn't the problem, just look at his work for Naughty Dog, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4. Look at the behind the scenes making of for Second Son and you can see Troy was doing everything to at least try and make Delsin work. The problem with Delsin is he's 24, yet he's written like a 16 year old. The problem isn't with Troy, it's that it's been said they had no script to work off of by the time motion and facial capture began, so most scenes were improvised.

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    • Infamous isn't what or should to attempt to be what? Fun and challenging? Sequels shouldn't attempt to do anything new or interesting, they should just do the same crap over and over again, at least that is the message I am getting from you. It sounds like you would be right at home with some walking simulators if all you want is story.

      Why do you keep on referring to comic books for power copiers? I refer to video games, you know what the Infamous series is first and foremost? If electricity is all you want then why not just replay 1 and 2 until the end of time?

      Why do always to be so vehemently raging all the time? Chill out.

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    • 108.30.110.252 wrote: Anyone think SP's new game, the samurai one, will b better than infamous?

      Doubt it very much.

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    • Let's all calm a bit guys! I'm cruising now in Second Son, with Delsin under Video Powers. Doesn't get old to me haha.

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    • GreenAvenue wrote: Let's all calm a bit guys! I'm cruising now in Second Son, with Delsin under Video Powers. Doesn't get old to me haha.

      Running around New Marais and playing my old UGC missions never gets old either, haha. Just shows how much replay value inFAMOUS has.

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    • Chris6d wrote:

      GreenAvenue wrote: Let's all calm a bit guys! I'm cruising now in Second Son, with Delsin under Video Powers. Doesn't get old to me haha.

      Running around New Marais and playing my old UGC missions never gets old either, haha. Just shows how much replay value inFAMOUS has.

      Hopefully next game adds more content, side dialogue, and custom / original missions.

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    • GreenAvenue wrote:

      Chris6d wrote:

      GreenAvenue wrote: Let's all calm a bit guys! I'm cruising now in Second Son, with Delsin under Video Powers. Doesn't get old to me haha.

      Running around New Marais and playing my old UGC missions never gets old either, haha. Just shows how much replay value inFAMOUS has.

      Hopefully next game adds more content, side dialogue, and custom / original missions.

      Custom missions would be great. I always loved the UGC, was such a unique feature. What other games have a UGC mission creator? I know there are others, just can't think of them right now. But it's unlikely the next inFAMOUS game would include a mission creator, sadly.

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    • GreenAvenue wrote:

      PariahParadox wrote: Infamous isn't what or should to attempt to be what? Fun and challenging? Sequels shouldn't attempt to do anything new or interesting, they should just do the same crap over and over again, at least that is the message I am getting from you. It sounds like you would be right at home with some walking simulators if all you want is story.

      Why do you keep on referring to comic books for power copiers? I refer to video games, you know what the Infamous series is first and foremost? If electricity is all you want then why not just replay 1 and 2 until the end of time?

      Why do always to be so vehemently raging all the time? Chill out.

      Let's all calm a bit guys! I'm cruising now in Second Son, with Delsin under Video Powers. Doesn't get old to me haha.

      Maybe we'd be able to calm down if Vanity stopped talking down to people all the time. That is just my opinion.

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    • Jim Logan wrote:
      VanityFiend wrote:
      Jim Logan wrote:
      I'm split, I give Troy props for at least trying to make Delsin work despite the lack of an actual script. But he didn't do enough.

      I applaud the team behind Sucker Punch giving it their all, but the loss of a full year of development time hurt them and it shows. I do not care for Second Son, for everything they did right, they did at least two things wrong. It was obvious Sony wanted to continue the franchise with several sequels, but without Cole, a horrible protagonist in Delsin, and an underwhelming story in Second Son that did more in setting up a sequel than developing Delsin as a proper protagonist, it felt half baked, like a game that had half of it chopped off for DLC, but the DLC never came.

      I agree with this assessment, but you give Baker more props than he deserves. He's not a good fit for Infamous, especially for mocap. As for the writing, I think this game actually had no writer. The writer from Infamous 2 was definitely not in charge of Second Son.
      Baker is an excellent actor, and motion capture isn't the problem, just look at his work for Naughty Dog, The Last of Us, Uncharted 4. Look at the behind the scenes making of for Second Son and you can see Troy was doing everything to at least try and make Delsin work. The problem with Delsin is he's 24, yet he's written like a 16 year old. The problem isn't with Troy, it's that it's been said they had no script to work off of by the time motion and facial capture began,